Talk:Save Jobs Party

Neutrality

I've noticed that this political article goes right from a brief history (which appears verbatim from another page) to an entire section regarding a scandal. From an outside perspective, it appears that this page may have been politically motivated. I'm not familiar with much of this, but there's at least got to be a list of candidates that were endorsed that could have been added. Rigbyl7 01:14, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

• • Yeah, the brief history is pretty much "cut and paste" from the Jack Davis (industrialist) article. I can't remember if I was the one who wrote the text in the original article or not, but I don't think there is really a policy against it (although I certainly lose style points). As for the list of candidates endorsed, they didn't do so well, and I don't think that any of them ever were notable enough that they have wiki articles; I'll do some digging tonight. --Cjs56 03:01, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Also, I'd like to get some more citations up, but the best source (The Buffalo News) puts their articles behind a subscription wall pretty quickly after they run, so the links go dead, and research into anything more than a month old is pretty difficult, not that it justifies shoddy work. --Cjs56 03:09, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Relevance

At the risk of sounding like a jerk I have to ask if there's nothing to source, no list of notable candidates, and nothing substantial ever came from it, is it really necessary to have a wikipedia article about it? I don't think this was a statewide party as it never fielded a candidate for governor.. I don't think I'd go around putting up an article about my neighborhood watch group. Rigbyl7 00:22, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

• All perfectly fair points... The only really notable person involved in the party is Davis. Even though I composed the article, I have doubts about its noteworthiness myself, but I'll play devil's advocate here. Relevance or notability is not necessarily directly proportional to success. I think it is noteworthy that even in an area suffering dramatically from the de-industrialiation of the American workforce that a protectionist third party could not get off the ground. I think it's notable that a multi-millionaire tried to buy himself "grassroots" to further his political goals, but that because it was really "astroturf" it didn't go over well with a lot of people. If you were to nominated it for deletion, I would vote against it, but my feelings would most certainly not be hurt ;) --Cjs56 02:07, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

• • I'm not going to be one of those "vote for delete" people... you created it... I'll give you the power to kill if, if thats the right thing to do... (which it may be...) Rigbyl7 01:22, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Since Jack's page contains all of this information, perhaps a redirect to that page?Rigbyl7 02:28, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
      • That makes sense. I'll do the needed work sometime in a week or so. --Cjs56 02:36, 25 June 2007 (UTC)