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Not completely true. There are a few Germanic people in Finland (a minority); Finland is most properly a "Finnic" (as you say) and/or "Baltic" country instead of a "Scandinavian" one, yet because Finland is on the Scandinavian Peninsula it is generally included as part of Scandinavia proper by many (but by no means all) sources. --Wassermann (talk) 20:27, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Geographically, Scandinavia is a peninsula with two (not three) countries: Norway and Sweden. But culturally Scandinavia definitely also includes Denmark, Iceland and the Faroe Islands on account of shared language origins (languages which in most cases are still mutually understandable), literature, and history, and even blood relations; and it includes Finland too: there's a Swedish speaking minority in Finland, and politically Finland, which is always included in Scandinavian cooperation etc, has strong Scandinavian connections. --Cessator (talk) 18:50, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
I suggest that you change the name to Nordic-Americans, it is more correct than scandinavian-americans. Finland is not a part of scandinavia but is a nordic country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dawb (talk • contribs) 09:01, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
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Geographically Scandinavia is not a Peninsula, it is a geopolitical area within the boundaries of the States of Norway Sweden and Denmark, and it's a cultural entity sharing a mutual history and it's own branch of the germanic language-tree. The peninsula you're refering to is called the Scandinavin Peninsula, not Scandinavia. The Scandinavian Peninsula is a large peninsula located within the area of Scandinavia, hence it's name, not the other way around. The reason for the tight-knit common roots within Scandinavia is due to their history originating in a few closely related tribes whom shared the proto-germanic language and at an early stage developed means of travelling huge distances by sea, leading to the spread of a mutual bloodline and language during a relatively short period of time.Flight714 (talk) 01:47, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
@Flight714: As you're reintroducing commentary already removed as WP:SOAP, could you (very briefly) explain what your comment has to do with improving the content of this article. You seem to responding to a thread almost 10 years old which didn't conform to WP:NOTFORUM in the first instance. Do you have something based on reliable sources you wish to address? If so, I've missed the point of this exercise. Iryna Harpy (talk) 02:53, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
@Iryna Harpy: I have no idea why in the first place you're reacting to and then even typing your response here, at this 10 year old thread. Are you just trawling through random article's talk pages to check if everything is in correct order in accordance with your personal ideas ? No, nothing was removed as WP:SOAP, but on the persnickety reason that it was some 3 lines misplaced in the order of the thread. My contribution here to the talkpage does not differ from the mainpart; It is a response to the post made by User:Cessator in July 2009 as response to the post made by User:Hulagutten in January 2008. Whether it's been 18 months or 10 years shouldn't detract essentially from the core of conveyed content. Your (critique?)could be raised at any of those and hundreds of thousands other wiki talkpage posts, ( do they contribute to the quality of the article ?) I'm simply trying to raise the general level of education, correcting the often but erronous peddled idea that Scandinavia is a peninsula, which it is not, though there is a large Peninsula in Scandinavia named The Scandinavian Penisula... etc.. everything is to read from my prior post. And you see, talk pages aren't just about technicalities, theyre also establishing concensus, meaning ; if the same misconceptions are being aired perpetually they might end up as "wikiconcensus" nomatter or disregarding already established scientific consensus. Whether concerning geography, geopolitics, history, evolution, language or whatever. But what is your personel motivation here - have you got some political issues concerning the definition of whom being Scandinavian Americans or what is the problem ? I believe both this and my prior post reads quite clear and unambiguously.Flight714 (talk) 19:28, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
@Flight714: You still haven't managed to clarify why your personal observations are not WP:SOAP. I suggest that you familiarise yourself with this policy. I gave you the benefit of the doubt by not just removing it per WP:TALKNO, and I'm sorry if you've taken it personally, but the fact that you simply reverted after I'd removed your comment made it clear that you weren't prepared to drop it. Retaliating by expressing a battleground mentality (and general bad faith behaviour) is not a civil way to behave. Understand that long time editors, like myself, have hundreds of articles on their watchlist for purposes of article and talk maintenance, not because we have an illicit WP:POV interest in a subject area. You're using this talk page as a forum. Whether or not Scandinavia is a Peninsula, a group of islands, or part of a secret subterranean crop of islands stretching from Scotland has nothing to do with the subject of the article (i.e., it's not significant information for content relating to this article). If you have an issue to discuss regarding content specifically pertaining to Scandinavia which is of significance, it should be taken to the relevant article and content in that article should be discussed. Using talk pages to 'educate' readers(?)/other contributors{?) in the manner you are covers fairly much everything that Wikipedia is not. Again, I apologise if you found this to be insulting, but do try to keep your talk on track. Thank you for taking my suggestions on board, and happy editing. Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:31, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
@Iryna Harpy: There is nothing WP:SOAP WP:TALKNO WP:POV or WP:OFFTOPIC about any of my posts and neither am I using this talkpage as a forum. Nor are my posts here differing qualitatively from any other post on this talkpage. Nor have my talk been at any time off track. I have no Idea what is suggested or implied in the phrasing"..taking my suggestions on board.." I still have no Idea why this is all being brought up at all. Do you really think this belongs at a talk page ? I don't even understand why this talk page is on your watch list, is it supposed to be a controversial or dangerous topic ? By " raising the general level of education" is meant to get rid of misconceptions, not that I put myself in the position of an educator, or others in the position of pupils. I find this to be of paramount importance both generally and in order to improve this and any other article. I do believe that the topic of what constitutes the concept of Scandinavia is relevant and quite central to an article on American Scandinavians. Thank you very much in advance for assuming good faith.Flight714 (talk) 13:09, 6 October 2019 (UTC)
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While agreeing that Nordic-American is more correct, I'm guessing that in English it doesn't really make a difference as such. Another question, though: Why is the Faroese American article deleted? It existed before. Mulder1982 (talk) 16:14, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
