Talk:Scotland under the Commonwealth/GA1

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Reviewer: Peacemaker67 (talk · contribs) 00:43, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.

Lead

  • suggest "Scotland under the Commonwealth refers to the history of Scotland between February 1652 and June 1660, from the declaration that the kingdom was part of the Commonwealth of England until the Restoration of the monarchy and Scotland's position as an independent kingdom."checkY
  • suggest "After the execution of Charles I in 1649, the Scottish Parliament declared his son Charles II to be King of Great Britain and Ireland."checkY
  • suggest a comma after "Under the Tender of Union" and "Under the terms of the union"checkY (I added these just now)
  • suggest "began attemptscheckY (I did this)
  • suggest "The regime tolerated Protestants, including sectarians, as "sectaries" is a very uncommon word
  • significant groups - should that be "group"?checkY
  • The "Kirk" needs explanationcheckY
  • suggest "The Kirk was divided into Resolutioners and more hard line Protesters by the issue of co-operation with the crown."checkY
  • the use of "regime" is repetitivecheckY
  • suggest "and facilitated the Restoration of Charles II in 1660."checkY

Background

  • suggest you split this sentence into two, as follows: "Having supported Parliament in the First English Civil War (1642–46) under the Solemn League and Covenant, the Covenanter government in Scotland came under the control of the Engagers. As part of the Second English Civil War they invaded England in support of royalist risings, and were defeated by the New Model Army under Oliver Cromwell at Battle of Preston in 1648."checkY
  • suggest you explicitly state that the Scottish Parliament were the ones who declared Charles II king, and king of Great Britain and Ireland, as the casual reader might think it was just Scotland.checkY
  • add a comma after "was no rising in their favour"checkY

Constitutional status

  • check the quote "so much of Scotland as it now under" should "it" be "is"?checkY

Administration

  • Scottish Estates needs explanationcheckY
  • £50,0000?checkY
  • suggest "by 1655, and was still not complete"checkY
  • "by a seven commissioners"checkY

Resistance

  • suggest "As a result, the military Royalist military effort petered out."checkY

Religion

  • "the Kirk" needs explanationcheckY
  • should "Consultations" have an initial capital?checkY
  • see my earlier comment re: sectaries

'Economy and taxation

  • "free quarter" needs explanation. Do you mean "free quarters"checkY
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
  • suggest you use template:cite book in the bibliography section, which will reduce the space used, as well as clutter
  • the page numbers in the bibliography duplicate those in the notes section
  • suggest using shortened footnoting to reduce the clutter and repetition in the notes section
  • suggest use of refbegin and refend templates to reduce size of reference section
  • while the current set-up meets minimum acceptable standards under WP:FNNR, I strongly suggest you consider the above changes
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). Well-cited throughout
2c. it contains no original research. Source spotchecks were good
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. all the main aspects have been included, no extraneous material
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). succinct
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. No detectable bias
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. no issues with edit warring or recent major changes
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
  • the drawing of Guthrie appears to have been done by Margetson who died in 1940, but has a life of the author +100 years tag, which doesn't work. checkY (removed)
  • File:Blaeu.Atlas.of.Scotland.1654.Renfrew.Govan.jpg needs a US PD tagcheckY
  • otherwise, the image licensing is fine
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. all captions are pertinent and relevant
7. Overall assessment. On hold for seven days for the above areas of prose and image licensing to be addressedPassing now, well done.

Update on progress[edit]

Lead

  • suggest "Scotland under the Commonwealth refers to the history of Scotland between February 1652 and June 1660, from the declaration that the kingdom was part of the Commonwealth of England until the Restoration of the monarchy and Scotland's position as an independent kingdom."
  • WP:REFERS discourages "refers" in the opening sentence.--SabreBD (talk) 20:48, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • suggest "After the execution of Charles I in 1649, the Scottish Parliament declared his son Charles II to be King of Great Britain and Ireland."
  •  Done.--SabreBD (talk) 20:48, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • suggest a comma after "Under the Tender of Union", "Under the terms of the union" and
  • suggest "began attempts
  • Did you do this already, there seem to be commas?--SabreBD (talk) 20:48, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • suggest "The regime tolerated Protestants, including sectarians, as "sectaries" is a very uncommon word
  • It is, however, the correct word. Sectarian suggests something else entirely.--SabreBD (talk) 20:48, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • significant groups - should that be "group"?
  •  Done.--SabreBD (talk) 20:48, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • The "Kirk" needs explanation.
  •  Done.--SabreBD (talk) 20:48, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • suggest "The Kirk was divided into Resolutioners and more hard line Protesters by the issue of co-operation with the crown."
  •  Done.--SabreBD (talk) 20:48, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • the use of "regime" is repetitive.
  •  Done. Changed some to Commonwealth.--SabreBD (talk) 20:48, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • suggest "and facilitated the Restoration of Charles II in 1660."
  •  Done.--SabreBD (talk) 21:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Background

  • suggest you split this sentence into two, as follows: "Having supported Parliament in the First English Civil War (1642–46) under the Solemn League and Covenant, the Covenanter government in Scotland came under the control of the Engagers. As part of the Second English Civil War they invaded England in support of royalist risings, and were defeated by the New Model Army under Oliver Cromwell at Battle of Preston in 1648."
  •  Done.--SabreBD (talk) 21:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • suggest you explicitly state that the Scottish Parliament were the ones who declared Charles II king, and king of Great Britain and Ireland, as the casual reader might think it was just Scotland.

 Done.--SabreBD (talk) 21:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • add a comma after "was no rising in their favour"

 Done.--SabreBD (talk) 21:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC) Constitutional status[reply]

  • check the quote "so much of Scotland as it now under" should "it" be "is"?

 Done.--SabreBD (talk) 21:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Administration

  • Scottish Estates needs explanation

 Done.--SabreBD (talk) 21:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • £50,0000?

 Done.--SabreBD (talk) 21:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • suggest "by 1655, and was still not complete"

 Done.--SabreBD (talk) 21:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • "by a seven commissioners"

 Done.--SabreBD (talk) 21:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Resistance

  • suggest "As a result, the military Royalist military effort petered out."

 Done.--SabreBD (talk) 21:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC) Religion[reply]

  • "the Kirk" needs explanation

 Done.--SabreBD (talk) 21:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • should "Consultations" have an initial capital?

 Done.--SabreBD (talk) 21:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • see my earlier comment re: sectaries

'Economy and taxation

  • "free quarter" needs explanation. Do you mean "free quarters"

 Done.--SabreBD (talk) 21:12, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]