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While there are some scattered citations, this article reads poorly. Basic facts about the subject are not mentioned. For example, when and where was he born? As this point the whole thing seems to be about his tenure in New York and not really about him. --Do Not Talk About Feitclub (contributions) 20:19, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think the article is okay so far, but yes his date of birth is needed. I couldn't find it when I looked up his information, so if anyone knows it go ahead and add it. I didn't add any of those paragraphs. I however, do feel that they should stay. FamicomJL 20:24, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Still, the focus on his tenure with the Knicks seems a little POV to me. He must have held other jobs. --Do Not Talk About Feitclub (contributions) 13:43, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I was the one who did the research about Layden, and wrote the paragraphs that are shown here. In retrospect some parts of this article do sound POV such as the statement, "Layden's next transaction is considered by fans and basketball analysts as one of the most frivolous contracts in league history." when talking about Allan Houston's contract. But there are many sources out there that can back my statement up, with more research. I tried very hard to be as unbiased as possible, but there is solid evidence that Scott Layden specifically signed/traded for players who were members of his father's former organization the Utah Jazz, with no regard to how absurdly inflated their contracts were or how average the players were. Still, he did hold other jobs and this is only a SECTION of what an article about this man should be, if anyone out there would like to add to this, please do. Rpgman456 16:27, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bot report : Found duplicate references !

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In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)

  • "Deseret News (Salt Lake City), Jul 7, 2005: Layden a Jazzman again" :
    • [http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20050707/ai_n14728692 Layden a Jazzman again | Deseret News (Salt Lake City) | Find Articles at BNET.com]
    • [http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20050707/ai_n14728692 Layden a Jazzman again | Deseret News (Salt Lake City) | Find Articles at BNET.com<!-- Bot generated title -->]

DumZiBoT (talk) 12:40, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]


    • If you did the "research" on the Layden article; then how could you irresponsibly label Antonio McDyess as having a "chronic" injury when traded to New York. He did have a leg injury that limitited him to only 10 games the prior season. But the season prior he played in 70 games and averaged 21 points and 12 rebounds per game; shooting 50% from the field and blocking 1.5 shots a game. The two seasons prior to that one he averaged 19 and 21 pts, as well as 9 and 11 rebounds. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.151.192.1 (talk) 13:20, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • The "Worst Franchise in Sports" title given to the New York Knicks by ESPN and others; was attributed entirely to Isiah Thomas' four plus years reign with the team as Pres. GM and head coach at all or seperate times; and in no way could be attributed to Layden's years there; even remotely so.
        • Layden's hands were tied when it came to Allan Houston; as there was uncertainty about Houston's health leading up to his free agency; and the Knicks dragged their feet to re-sign him. Conversely, no one would trade for him knowing he was soon to be a free agent. At the eleventh hour the Knicks were forced to re-sign him; or they would get nothing in return if he signed elsewhere; which would have happened as his heakth showed steady progress at that time.
          • The players mentioned as being part of his father's organization were in fact players from the son's former organization as well. And more to the point...were probably drafted by the son when he was Pres. of basketball operations for that same former Utah Jazz team.

Two examples were Howard Eisley, who was an all world backup for John Stockton as they made numerous runs at the championship; and would have started for lesser teams. And Shandon Anderson; who was a viable sixth man of the year candidate type player who also filled many a void at three positions for the Jazz; including being one of the better defenders of the other teams best players. Anderson was already pried away by Houston and given a multi year deal before NY traded for him; and Eisley was paig big money to stay in Utah prior to NY as well. So others obviously noticed special talent in those two. Signing Michael Doleac as a backup was no big deal; and many teams have done the same before and since.

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