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Good articleSelah (song) has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Good topic starSelah (song) is part of the Jesus Is King series, a good topic. This is identified as among the best series of articles produced by the Wikipedia community. If you can update or improve it, please do so.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
August 5, 2020Good article nomineeListed
November 24, 2022Good topic candidatePromoted
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on September 1, 2020.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that before the Sunday Service Choir's "Revelations 19:1" rendition was released, Kanye West sampled it on his song "Selah"?
Current status: Good article

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Selah (Kanye West song)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Ashleyyoursmile (talk · contribs) 04:44, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]


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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()
3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Feeling a bit confident after my first review yesterday, I shall take on this review now for the numerous articles you have reviewed for me. --Ashleyyoursmile! 04:44, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

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  • though some critics expressed negative feelings of the song's lyrical content → though some critics expressed negative feelings towards the song's lyrical content

Background and development

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  • "Clemons contributed vocals to fellow Jesus Is King tracks "Everything We Need" and "Water" Is this sentence relevant to the song? You could consider mentioning that he created the song and provided backing vocals for it
  • had been dismissive of ideas by West initially, → had been initially dismissive of ideas by West,
  • "Throughout 2019, the Sunday Service Choir's concerts were popular with numerous celebrities, including American actor Brad Pitt." Is this sentence really relevant to the song?
  • "Alongside the Sunday Service Choir and Clemons, the former of the three includes vocals from record producer Bongo ByTheWay." Again, is this relevant?
  •  Not done it is relevant because "the former of the three" is "Selah" here and it is worth mentioning all of the vocalists in the body, especially since they are written out in the lead. --K. Peake 08:06, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Composition and lyrics

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  • A 13 second sample of the song → A 13−second sample of the song
  • Link "chants" to chants
  • Military drums are included in the song, which have been noted for conveying attitude → Instrumentation for the song consists primarily of Military drums, which have been noted for conveying attitude
  • The chord progression of it received comparisons to that of the track → The chord progression of it was compared to that of the track

Release and promotion

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  • Great

Critical reception

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  • "Jordan Bassett from NME commented that the song features "dour organ" and "intermittent percussion."" Would you like to move this sentence to "Composition and lyrics" instead?
  • I think I can keep this here since it is expressing opinions of these things, though should I write about percussion in the comp section and use this as a ref? --K. Peake 08:06, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Commercial performance

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  • Following Jesus Is King being released, "Selah" → Following the release of Jesus Is King, "Selah"
  • The track was present on the Hot 100 → The track remained on the Hot 100
  • "On the US Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart, the track reached number 10 that same week." Which week are you talking you? Can you mention the week in one of the sentences above?
  • In Slovakia, the track experience lesser → In Slovakia, the track experienced lesser

Appearances in media

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  • Great

Sunday Service Choir version

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  • It has regularly been performed live → It has been regularly performed live

Credits and personnel

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  • Great

Credits and personnel

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  • Great

Charts

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Weekly charts

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  • Change the caption from "Chart performance for "Selah"" to "Weekly chart performance for "Selah""
  • Do the same for "Chart performance for "Revelations 19:1""

Year-end charts

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  • Great

Notes

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  • Great

References

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  • Great

Outcome

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The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Vincent60030 (talk15:27, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Nominated within 7 days of receiving GA. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. Images are freely licensed. The hook is verified and cited inline. But I'm wondering why you often hide the song title behind words like a track or a record rather than say the name of the song? In this case, the song title is short enough to write:
  • ALT1: ... that Kanye West sampled the Sunday Service Choir's "Revelations 19:1" rendition on his song "Selah" before the rendition had been released? Yoninah (talk) 22:15, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • No QPQ needed for nominator with less than 5 DYK credits. Yoninah (talk) 22:15, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yoninah I do this because it seems too obvious to write the song's title, is doing as I currently am acceptable or does it need to be changed right now? --K. Peake 05:19, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Kyle Peake: it's too vague. Take a look at WP:DYKA and see how specific song (and other title hooks) are. BTW your goal in writing a "hook" is to "reel" the reader in to click on the article and learn more. When you write it this way, you're just writing a statement of fact and telling me everything I need to know, so there's no reason to click and read further. Yoninah (talk) 10:31, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Yoninah: Isn't it fine with the title added now since this does not give full info because the songs were actual released two months apart? --K. Peake 15:55, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ALT0a: ... that Kanye West sampled the Sunday Service Choir's "Revelations 19:1" rendition on "Selah" before the rendition had been released?
  • First, let's restore the thread. We don't edit the hooks under consideration because then other editors will be unable to follow the discussion. I have placed your new alt at the bottom of the thread and numbered it accordingly. Yoninah (talk) 17:41, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Kyle Peake: In answer to your question, yes, the hook is okay. My "by the way" note was just something extra to think about when writing hooks. Now, would you prefer the wording in ALT0a or ALT1? Should we say that "Selah" is a song, or is it obvious? Yoninah (talk) 17:44, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]