Talk:Sepal

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How many articles do we want on this subject?

Most of this article is currently a copy-paste (more or less) from Petal. I don't really see the value of having Sepal, Petal and Tepal be separate articles. In the extreme case, all this material would be moved to Flower, but merging Sepal, Petal and Tepal might be a more moderate way to try to bring some order and avoid the syndrome of very short articles which duplicate each other a lot. Kingdon 15:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree, since these pages have not had any new content added to them, they should be merged into an article on flower morphology. Hardyplants (talk) 16:44, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

How should we name this combined article though? I think it's actually useful to have separate internally-linked articles since they can clarify the specific meaning of each term. Also, the three terms are usually thought of as distinct concepts. eug (talk) 01:12, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Copyediting

I added the copyedit template to this page. The sentences sound awkward. die2u2 (talk) 18:23, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Reworked some of the sentences,and corrected punctuation. --BwB (talk) 19:56, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I am not sure what "The sentences sound awkward" refers to. Can you please cite an example? In fact, the quality of the prose seems superior to average Wikipedia content to me. Merlin Cox (talk) 09:58, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

There've been three dozen edits over these last nine months and the article--while perhaps a bit short and technical--reads fine to me. I've removed the copyedit tag. <Jeffbadge (talk) 21:05, 20 February 2010 (UTC)>

Cabbages and Lettuces

Is it true that cabbages and lettuces are what they are now by selective breeding, and cabbages and lettuces have many layers of sepals that do not open? Reference: Horrible Science "Evolve or Die" - pg. 36.

Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 03:16, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

The first is certainly true; the many cultivars of cabbages and lettuces were originally created from wild species. The second isn't true. Cabbages belong to the family Brassicaceae. They have perfectly normal sepals which open in the usual way (sometimes a broccoli head – closely related to cabbages – is a bit old and you can leave it until the flowers start to open and then look at them). Lettuces (which aren't at all closely related) belong to the family Asteraceae – the daisy or composite family. They have very complex flower heads (see Asteraceae#Floral_heads) made up of many individual flowers tightly grouped to form what can look like a single flower. What might appear to be sepals underneath the composite flower head are sepal-like bracts or scales. These are in many layers and don't open, it's true, but they aren't actually sepals. Peter coxhead (talk) 06:46, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

definition missing

Am Her dict: Calyx: "The outer protective covering of a flower." why does Wikipedia have to introductions that are obfuscations. Is it emulating dan Brown?211.225.33.104 (talk) 10:13, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Sometimes it's because of a desire to be completely accurate. A dictionary definition isn't necessarily precise. However, I agree that the usual function of the calyx can be noted earlier and I'll fix it. Peter coxhead (talk) 15:14, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

That's Am. Her. Dict.
--Jerzy•t 08:05, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Greek

When adding Greek please add some pronunciation information as not all of us can read Greek. Jidanni (talk) 17:47, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. Transcriptions added. Peter coxhead (talk) 05:46, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

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Misleading definition of "merosity"

"The number of sepals in a flower is its merosity." This is not an adequate definition of "merosity". It does not include the petal whorl. A better sentence might be "the number of sepals or petals in a flower reflects its merosity". But I'd prefer that somebody who has a better everyday grasp of the term make the change rather than I. --Yuezrnaem (talk) 21:17, 7 April 2020 (UTC)