Talk:Shadow Divers

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I have completely rewritten the article because the original one sounded like a publisher's review blurb. While accurate it is not what is expected of Wikipedia articles. I personally own and have read the book so I felt I was qualified to write a better article than what was previously here.

I did not give extended plot details as some book articles do. I do reveal that three deaths occurred, the ending/near ending of the two men's marriages and the discovery of the U-Who's identity does indeed happen, however I have not included any information or a link to spoil it in the article, outside of the mention that the Nova special "Hilter's Lost Sub" was about the U-Boat.

-Drakk )))

I added a redirect for U-Who to point to the appropriate U-Boat. I'm torn whether to make the U-Who references in this article links, since that won't give anything away unless you actually follow the link, whereas a direct link to the appropriate U-boat would show which one it was in the URL. -- Fordan 07:58, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Quick question about the last paragraph in the synopsis. It says that the mystery ultimately almost ended Chatterton's marriage. I thought that Chatterton and his wife Katie got a divorce. I lost my copy of the book, so I'm not completely sure.


I believe you are right, it had been a little while since I had read the book when I rewrote the article, I will update it with that info, thank you. Draknfyre 20:20, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Draknfyre 20:20, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Shadow Divers Exposed[edit]

Should we reference Gary Gentile's book SHADOW DIVERS EXPOSED: The Real Saga of the U-869 ISBN 978-1883056247? The title would give away one of the secrets of Shadow Divers, but it does seem relevant. - Fordan 08:13, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Methinks it may be relevant too. I have read Kurson's book but not the "expose," so I don't know how much credibility the latter has or whether it is just a capitalization on the fame of the former book. Perhaps just listing it in the Extrenal Links would suffice. (?) Softlavender (talk) 04:20, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't read it either, so don't feel competent to add a section to the article concerning it, but what has been getting added tends to be non-neutral in tone, so I pulled it out. A sentence along the lines of "An alternative look at these events was published by Gary Gentile in Shadow Divers Exposed, where he asserts..." and complete the assertions in that sentence, but not in much more space. Gary has an article where the details of his book can be handled in more depth, and the sentence would provide the link for an interested reader. Guess I should see if the local library has a copy of Gary's book. - Fordan (talk) 19:14, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
While Wikipedia is neutral, I will warn anyone who reads Gary Gentile's book that from reviews (I haven't read it yet myself) it's extremely negative. According to the reviews the author nitpicks at the smallest things (a piece of equipment being called a different name than it normally is) and the whole thing reeking of jealousy. This, of course, would not preclude inclusion into the article, but I thought I would warn you before you read it, lol. Draknfyre (talk) 14:24, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know either man, but I have always wondered if there was a bit of professional jealousy between Gary Gentile and Richie Kohler. Either way, I think Gentile's book probably merits a short para in this article; whether his criticisms are justified or not. --Legis (talk - contribs) 16:48, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Added a fair use rationale for the image's use in this article. - Fordan (talk) 18:50, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a reason not to link to German submarine U-869?[edit]

Is there any reason not to link to the wikipedia article about the submarine? --184.77.162.71 (talk) 21:36, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]