Talk:Sharifuddin Pirzada

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To suggest that Mr. Sharifuddin Pirzada was not involved in any capacity in the Pakistan Movement is preposterous and shows your complete lack of knowledge on the subject. There is a plethora of evidence that irrefutably shows that Mr. Pirzada worked for Jinnah and was involved with the Pakistan Movement. Here is just a small sampling:

Rafiq Zakaria (father of Foreign Affairs expert Fareed Zakaria) an established authority on the partition, confirmed in his book "Price of Partition" that Mr. Pirzada was indeed Jinnah's secretary (page 85). Yousuf Haroon in his speech on 25th Dec 2001 (on the occasion of Jinnah's 125th birth anniversary) also talked about Jinnah entrusting himself and Mr. Pirzada with many special assignments. The "Inqilab" of 2nd April 1946 contains the proceedings of the meeting that Mr. Pirzada addressed in connection with the Muslim League election campaign in the suburb of Bombay. The paper also recalled the statement of the President of the meeting describing Mr. Pirzada as a former of secretary of Jinnah. In the rigorously researched Biographical Encyclopedia of Pakistan (published by the Research Institute of Pakistan in 1955), it clearly states that Mr. Pirzada was the honorary secretary to Jinnah from 1941 to 1944 (page 349). Another book "The Pakistan Formative Phase" by Dr. Khalid Bin Sayeed in 1961 (then professor of political science at a university in Canada) clearly states (page 485) that Mr. Pirzada was a secretary to Jinnah. When Mr. Pirzada was awarded the Nishan-i-Imtiaz (the highest civilian award for a Pakistani) in 1998, the official citation mentioned him being a secretary to Jinnah (surely the Pakistani intelligence is good at vetting!). Another recipient was Jamal Mian a person who played a major role in the Pakistan movement, and if there was any controversy he would have raised it then. Of course, there is ample photographic evidence that Mr. Pirzada worked with Jinnah. One photograph (young Pirzada with Jinnah and Gandhi) appeared in several newspapers (Bombay Chronicle, The Times of India and the Indian Standard) in September 1944 and also appeared in a number of books including Mahatma Gandhi by Tendulkar (8th volume, page 304). Moreover there is another selection of photographs of Mr. Pirzada with Jinnah that are displayed by the Jinnah Society. A Pakistani columnist several years ago wrote how Mr. Pirzada showed a Bombay newspaper clipping from the 1940s indicating he was indeed a secretary to Jinnah, effectively silencing his political critics when his role with Jinnah was questioned after becoming Ayub Khan's Foreign Minister in the 1960s (www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_8-8-2003_pg3_6). On or about February 24, 1970 Chief Justice Abdul Qadir Shaikh while adjucating on which Muslim sect Jinnah belonged to, relied largely on the testimony of Mr. Pirzada and referring to him as Jinnah's secretary in his judgement (PLD 1970 Karachi 450).

The fact is that most serious historians of Jinnah and the Pakistan movement hold Mr. Pirzada in very high esteem and highly credible, of course there are many non-entities who are politically motivated to besmirch him. If you still persisit with your assertions, have the moral courage to disclose your name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rpirzada (talk • contribs) 17:32, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

There is absolutely no evidence of Pirzada's involvement in any of these events.

Entry: February 13, 2008. Perhaps if you read some literature on Pakistan you woudl realize that he was very much involved in these events. I would suggest reading "The Idea of Pakistan" by Stepphen Philip Cohen published in 2004. He has studided Pakistan extensively for nearly 50 years now, inside and out. He shows plenty of evidence linking Pirzada to these events. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.56.133.146 (talk) 17:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I have read Stephen Cohen's "Idea of Pakistan" and it has absolutely no evidence of Sharifuddin Pirzada's connection to the Pakistan movement. Please don't fib. I have read probably more the "literature" of Pakistan and it remains a fact that both Fatima Jinnah and Jinnah's REAL secretary Khurshid rubbished Sharifuddin Pirzada's claim. 58.65.172.241 (talk) 10:50, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

I have reworked the article to remove the POV tag since a lot of it was unsourced and spoken in very glowing terms about the man. I've also added a sources needed since nothing is currently sourced. If you have any problems with my edit please let me know. Gordie (talk) 18:04, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Reverting Edits by Rpirzada

I am reverting edits made by rpirzada because he basically just undid my edits to remove the POV from the article. Please cite sources whenever you make claim for "immense legal skills" Also this quote "Moreover, he is widely acknowledged as the “doyen of litigators” in Pakistan and is respected by the entire market with clients enthusing that he “is unquestionably at the very top of his profession - an incredible lawyer!” [1] Furthermore, he is also considered a leading authority on the Pakistan independence movement." Is taken directly from the add from that lawers website and as per Wikipedia:Reliable sources cannot be used in this article. Gordie (talk) 17:23, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Gordie, with due respect the quotes are taken from www.chambersandpartners.com which is a website that list the top lawyers in 175 countries, providing independent rankings and editorial commentary (also used by other lawyers on wikipedia). The other reference is of a well known book. There are detractors of Mr. Pirzada who insist in besmirching him. If you feel that additional sources are needed please let me know and I will provide them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rpirzada (talk • contribs) 16:05, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

You still cannot write that kind of promotional drivel in Wikipedia whether it is said in Chamber's or not. You certainly cannot state it as a fact when you are actually quoting someone elses opinion. SpinningSpark 17:39, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

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