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What about Cameron Gamble?[edit]

Name of entry[edit]

Why is this called Kidnapping of Sherri Papini? It should be called The Alleged Kidnapping of Sherri Papini. Nicmart (talk) 00:49, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that it might need a better title. (But, I really can't think of one.) The title should (somehow) reflect that the "kidnapping" event itself is being questioned by the authorities (if, indeed, the authorities are questioning it). Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 16:14, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Renamed as "Sherri Papini kidnapping allegations" on March 5, 2022. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 02:56, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Biographical details[edit]

Name: Sherri Louise (née Graeff) Papini

Date of Birth: June 11, 1982

Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 16:15, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Transgender kidnapper maybe?[edit]

Just a thought: did detectives ever consider that one of the two kidnappers, whose faces were always covered when Sherri saw them, was instead transgender? The assumption that there's male DNA, thus Sherri is lying, is not pure logic. Sherri did not know these people. She only knew what she saw. Criminals are not honest people to begin with. The idea that one could be transgender, or even just a man dressing as a woman for whatever reason, ever cross investigators' minds? There's so much victim blaming in this case, it's disgusting. That poor woman was *severely* beaten and starved. No one does that as a publicity stunt if there is no underlying psychosis - her family & personal history would have divulged that by now. [All that was ever found in her distant past were some family squabbles when she was a teen, and none of those reports state what her family members did to garner the reactions, which may have been reasonable depending on what they did. Police don't record all sides of a story, it's all one-sided, that's why we have courts.] By ALL accounts, the Papinis led a stable, private life. They weren't into drama.

Also, there are so many cases of people - especially couples - kidnapping girls or women to keep as either sex slaves or surrogate mothers. There are a lot of sick, crazy people around. Police want the story to make sense? Why? Do humans always make sense? Did Gacy make sense? Bundy? Dahmer? There are a lot of people who aren't serial killers, but they are abusers, and they objectify others - often women - to an alarming degree. If the starting point of the investigation is, it must make sense, then they are behind already. Criminals do not make sense. Start from, these people are sick in the head & nothing they think makes sense. That's your starting point. Trust the victim UNTIL you have actual proof you can't. Otherwise, you're setting up other women to be victims of these criminals, and if they survive, they'll just be afraid to report it after how Sherri was publicly ridiculed. It's not rocket science. It's logic. Kelelain (talk) 13:59, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Good luck with thatMukogodo (talk) 20:49, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Rename[edit]

Given her arrest for fraud, should we change the title? "Kidnapping" of Sherri Papini does not seem like the best title. Thoughts? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 15:54, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Renamed to Sherri Papini kidnapping allegations. I looked to Tawana Brawley rape allegations as an example. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 05:19, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Renamed again ... Sherri Papini kidnapping hoax ... due to the recent news updates. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:45, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Update[edit]

In light of the case returning to media attention, it might be wise to update the Timeline section to the past tense, as it appears to have been written while the initial search was ongoing and gives the impression that law enforcement are still actively seeking both Papini and her alleged kidnappers.2601:940:C001:CF90:5CD2:DE1C:1895:4938 (talk) 13:07, 6 March 2022 (UTC)random passerby[reply]

I second concern in that this section requires updating. Specifically, this is hardly a 'timeline' as there is a 5+ year block of sparse detail between November 2016 and March 2022. Further, these are out of sequence in the text. Egious (talk) 13:43, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]