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Request to add information with reliable citations

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Hello all,

Welcome to this talk page.

Since Madhu Shrivastava will remain in Indian news and Indian memory for as long as the Best Bakery case remains (I think for the next at least fifty years - unless we have an amazing case of mass amnesia), can I please request fellow wikipedians (if there is such a word) to add to this wiki?

Just three requests -

1) Please give a good reference / citation for what you write and please stick to facts. Wikipedia is clear about what is considered "good". Party Propaganda is not considered a good citation (though party statements of facts are - as might be found in the BJP list of MLAs). On the other hand, tehelka reports consisting of "inferences" are also not considered good citations (though a news item published by tehelka is a good reference). Similarly, both - reports by eminent citizen groups (such as the Citizens tribunal report) and government of India reports (unfortunately the state government's report has mysteriously disappeared from its website!) are considered good citations.

2) Please try to keep the wiki objective and without your personal feelings. I know that this is difficult for many of us - we might personally harbor misgivings against someone who appears to be a downright hooligan. Others may worship the person. Some people may just be paid trolls. In either case, let us try to keep the wiki neutral, focusing on facts.

3) Please avoid peacock words (I notice loads of these in the godhra riots page - right from calling it a "ghastly carnage" on one side to "giving Modi a clean chit" and "completely absolved him" on the other). Let us leave the peacock words to Salim-Javed and Bollywood cinema script writers. A good example of this is the page on Eichmann and similar pages on the Holocaust and Auschwitz. Remember - the truth (and we ourselves as people) is rarely black and white - it is complex, and who is ot know who did what, why. It is not our job (to paraphrase what Krishna said in the Bhagavad Gita, though in far superior words) - ours is to just write and inform based on concrete citations.

If you yourself do not agree with a citation, there is a way out - Just add "As per..." before your sentence. For example: "As per the SIT report..." or "As per a report published by the Concerned Citizens Tribunal...". This allows readers to decide how much to believe what you have written.

Thanks a lot Notthebestusername (talk) 10:14, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]