Talk:Siege of Stralsund (1628)

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Scotland a belligerent?[edit]

Scotland is listed as a belligerent in the battlebox. However, it seems that the Scottish soldiers in this battle were mercenaries in the service of Denmark and Sweden, not representatives of Scotland (i.e. of Charles I). If so, Scotland shouldn't appear in the battlebox.

Top.Squark (talk) 12:08, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You are right. Skäpperöd (talk) 16:36, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


You are not correct here. The soldiers were raised under warrant of the Scottish Privy Council and fought under Scottish flag (shown). If you read Monro on his opinion of mercenaries you will see his attitude to them. The Danes make the distinction at the time between mercenaries 'lejeletrupper' - hired soldiers and 'hjaelptrupper' - help troops or allies. As the House of Stuart was obliged under the 1589 Stuart-Oldenburg alliance to provide Denmark with assistance in time of war, and as they were an authorised levy of the British king and Scottish Privy Council, these troops were a distinct allied force. Their rejection of Danish colours and insistance on fighting under Scottish ones is proof of that. In their eyes they were fighting for the honour of Elizabeth Stuart (Queen of Bohemia), niece of Christian IV and sister of Charles I in whose name they often stated they went to war.

Re flag errors. The Two Robert Monros fought at Stralsund in Danish not Swedish service. You should also add Lord Spynie and Alexander Seaton to the list of combatants —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thugcat (talk • contribs) 17:59, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed the flags accordingly. Alexander Seaton is already listed as commander, I didn't add Lord Spynie because lacking an article on him (I suppose it is this guy, Alexander Lindsay, 2nd Lord Spynie) I can't assess his importance in the battle. --Saddhiyama (talk) 18:11, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]


That was stunningly quick! Thanks for that. One of the problems about Spynie is that we know so little of him. I will try to verify that some of the supporting troops (from the Danish side) were Spynie's. He was actually of higher status than Monro or Mackay and Christian appointed him Governor of Skaane. But Monro's account only talks about his regiment. I will see what I can do. Thanks again —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thugcat (talk • contribs) 18:15, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome. Feel free to make changes yourself, though, after all anyone is allowed to edit the encyclopedia. --Saddhiyama (talk) 18:26, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have found the source for the date of deployment of Spynie's regiment and added it in. Alas, the Wiki editors found a problem with the software the Scottish Danish flag was made on so it was deleted. I will try to get it in an appropriate form and re post (smaller I hope!). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thugcat (talk • contribs) 20:07, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I removed Robert Monro from the commanders present. Monro was a major at the time not a commander, He served in the regiment of Donald Mackay, commanded during the siege by Lt. Col. Alexander Seaton who I have added in. I have altered the Danish flag to Scottish in accord with the information contained in Major Monro's memoir where he is emphatic on the point (as made by Thugcat above). I have also added citation to the most recent work on the subject.Tentsmuir (talk) 10:24, 30 December 2014 (UTC)Tentsmuir[reply]
Thanks for the updates Thugcat (talk) 10:41, 30 December 2014 (UTC)Thugcat[reply]
compromise flag used in Stralsund (reconstruction)
I made the compromise flag described by Monro (Saltire, with Dannerbrog in top right corner) into a vector image and it was uploaded (anonymously) some time ago. ΟΥΤΙΣ (talk) 05:35, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinate error[edit]

The coordinates need the following fixes:

  • I do not have the exact site within Stralsund, but this coordinate is off the coast of Ireland!

Shadow Two (talk) 04:26, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed: It read "W" where it ought to be "E" [1]. Thank you for pointing this out. Skäpperöd (talk) 05:14, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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