Talk:Siege of the Alcázar

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Moscardó's son[edit]

The event with Moscardó's son has an exhibit dedicated to it at the Alcazar in Toledo (or at least it did in 2001). They had a recording of the conversation you could listen to, which I presume was a reenactment, but I'm not sure. I didn't have enough context on the hostory of the Spanish civil war to know what was going on, but it was interesting. A visit to the Alcazar to get more info and even pictures to add to the article would be a great idea, all my pictures were lost a while back. I'm sure we have some Spanish Wikipedian's that live close enough. And great article by the way. - Taxman Talk 15:22, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The author in the book of the Siege of Alcazar stated "I have not taken the only means of confirming or disproving it" and that it was the version floating around in 1937. So it may be entirely a fabrication of Nationalist propaganda in the book, it would be great if those in Spain could provide the version at the Toledo Alcazar. The book also gave 39 illustrations/pictures of the Alcazar, the attackers and defenders and they really give a sense of the situation. So if somebody could provide pictures, it would really add to the article. - Gamecock 17:29, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hugh Thomas concluded that the Nationalist account was basically correct on the grounds that:
  1. The phone lines had not yet been physically cut by July 22, as Republican accounts later claimed.
  2. The story of Moscardo's son was published immediately after the relief of Toledo (appearing in the New York Times on September 30), and was not invented months later by the Nationalist propaganda machine as Republican accounts later claimed.
  3. Eyewitnesses from both sides confirmed the basic details of the phone conversation. Albrecht 17:41, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As I have referenced, Southworth and Herreros doubt several aspects. Keene also mentions the re-enactment in the modern Alcázar exhibition. --Error 01:16, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cadets in the Alcazar[edit]

It should be noticed that it couldn't be many cadets (and surely not 318) in the Alcázar, since the war started on Summer Holidays, when most cadets were on vacation.--85.48.71.176 02:00, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Changed with reference --Error 00:34, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hugh Thomas[edit]

Just a suggestion: when citing Hugh Thomas, it's probably best to cite the second edition (1977), which is enlarged and amply revised. He made quite a few corrections (although on this matter his account is essentially unchanged). - Jmabel | Talk 18:43, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My local library only carries the 1961 version. It'd be nice if you or somebody with access would please verify and cite from the 1977 version.
Also, is it appropriate that an image on the page is from another battle (Nationalist units are blessed by a military priest.)? Gamecock 03:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Vandalism[edit]

Mexicans throwing habaneros in defense? cmon. The book cited is in Spanish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TomRapheal (talk • contribs) 02:10, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There were no Mexicans at the siege. All of the edits by 98.111.4.241 should be considered vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.106.137.162 (talk) 23:17, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Women had no role in the fighting?[edit]

Hi there, I don't know the truth but this article says there were no women involved in the fighting (in fact, they were not involved really at all) while this article has a photo of two of them with rifles in their hands, purportedly in this battle. They should be reconciled, if possible. CsikosLo (talk) 16:00, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Could be republican forces conducting the siege rather than nationalists resisting it - that would resolve the question. 82.1.7.156 (talk) 12:03, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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