Talk:Simon Meyer Kuper

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Anecdote from Llandag[edit]

User:Llandag related the following anecdote in this edit. It was, rightly enough, deleted from the article by EEng in this edit, but may perhaps be of interest here on the talk page.

Independent anecdote on the above, from a Wikipedia reader : I was a boy growing up in Johannesburg, and I remember the announcement that Judge Kuper had been murdered. My dad and I were traveling into Johannesburg by car, he to work, and I to school, just crossing the Overton bridge when the radio announced it. My dad was an assiduous newspaper reader, and had his finger on the political pulse of the Nationalist party (whom he hated), and when the news broadcast said that Judge Kuper had been murdered, he remarked "... and his murderer will never be found - because he was a jew" As a boy of 19 years, I wasn't very interested in politics, so it was probably only my dad's remark that made me remember it - but to the best of my knowledge, Judge Kuper's assassin was never brought to justice. Knowing my dad's knowledge of South African internal affairs at the time, the fact that he was able to immediately predict this outcome gives me a strong suspicion that Judge Kuper's death was either organised by the power structure in the country, or was condoned by it.

Zazpot (talk) 10:40, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation[edit]

A "distinguish" notice relating to Simon Kuper is needed here. Where there are concerns about the lack of reference to the relationship between the two, the courses of action, in order of preference, are:

Add the necessary sentence with a reference.
Remove the words "his grandson" from the notice.
Undo the previous edit without discussion.

Deb (talk) 18:57, 16 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In case the comment above was prompted by this edit of mine, perhaps it is worth my saying that if an edit does not contradict the letter or the spirit of WP:BLP, then I would not object to it as a possible WP:BLP violation. As such, in relation to your:

1., it seems to me that, unless a WP:RS can be found that asserts a relationship between two people, and this relationship is somehow notable and relevant to the article, then such a relationship should not be asserted in the article.
2., I have no objection to the use of a simple "distinguish" notice that makes no assertions that are not reliably sourced.
3., any reversion should have an edit summary, per WP:REVEXP. As such, undoing an edit without explanation is not OK, and I don't think this item should be on the list. (Although if by discussion you specifically meant, "talk page discussion", then I again agree with WP:REVEXP: "If your reasons for reverting are too complex to explain in an edit summary, leave a note on the article's Talk page. It is sometimes best to leave a note on the Talk page first and then revert, rather than the other way around; this gives the other editor a chance to agree with you and revise their edit appropriately.")

Zazpot (talk) 20:24, 16 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You know, maybe I would have done that if it were not for your request. Deb (talk) 06:55, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That does not follow. This is a matter of following Wikipedia's policies, guidelines and essays. It did not require any interaction with me. (Besides, you have acted against my request in several other instances already.) Zazpot (talk) 09:27, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]