Talk:Skeheenarinky
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December 2008
[edit]I'm not sure why this articles was "nominated" as spam.
As soon as I added a "See also" section and the link to the community's homepage Skeheenarinky.com, it was dubbed "SPAM"...
I have deleted the see also section in the meantime.
KieranC15 (talk) 14:31, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
As reviewing administrator, I think there is a proper core to the article, and I am reducing it to that. But Wikipedia cannot be used for promotional purposes--you cannot use it to promote your festival. See our Business FAQ (which also applies to non-profit organisations and enterprises). I have therefore removed the inappropriate material. DGG (talk) 21:12, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
- I understand where you are coming from, but the festival already happened in June last year... This festival attracted thousands of people to this small community in the space of three days. It was on national television here in Ireland, and people from the US, Australia, and all over Europe came to the event. Skeheenarinky National School is also a national heritage building in Ireland, and is the oldest working national school in the country.
- Does that not give it the right to one short article on here? KieranC15 (talk) 12:46, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- You may not have realized, that I am trying to keep the article from deletion. Most other administrators here would have simply deleted it in the state it was in. I agree with you that a short article is appropriate. As for the festival, you need 3rd party independent reliable published sources, print or online (but not blogs or press releases). You can then add a short paragraph on it, for material which is likely to be of general interest beyond your own community. You should also add some basic geographical and demographic information about your community, with a source. If the school is a national heritage building, add that, with a reference. it would be better if that reference were not to the book abut the school, but to some more generally available source. Please write in a tone that does not sound promotional--not as if you were trying to attract interest to the next festival, or tourist interest in the community. A rather dry descriptive tone is appropriate--the sort of writing one associates with encyclopedias. For more about this see our guide to writing Wikipedia articles.DGG (talk) 17:57, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- Worse than the tone and the lack of verifiable references, it is a copyright violation being a cut and paste from this webpage, so should be csded as a copyvio. ww2censor (talk) 18:29, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- Okay. Thanks. @Ww2censor: I happen to run the Skeheenarinky website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KieranC15 (talk • contribs) 20:00, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- Well that means that you have a conflict of interest and should read WP:COI. As you know the website clearly has a copyright notice on it. If you want to use that text you will have to release it with an appropriate licence that Wikipedia can use, otherwise you, or someone else, will have to write it in their own words, but right as it stands the text here is a copyright violation. ww2censor (talk) 20:35, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
- the original was, but I did some rewriting. DGG (talk) 04:21, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- With all due respect DGG, a few changed words here and there can hardly be called a rewrite except for a very liberal interpretation of the word rewrite. Essentially it still looks like a copyvio with all the sentences in the same original order and with most of the same prose. Because there is some discussion, I did not just blank it and add a csd copyvio tag as is usual. Hopefully you guys can fix it even though a COI editor is involved. ww2censor (talk) 05:36, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
- I agree further rewrite is needed. DGG (talk) 15:58, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- With all due respect DGG, a few changed words here and there can hardly be called a rewrite except for a very liberal interpretation of the word rewrite. Essentially it still looks like a copyvio with all the sentences in the same original order and with most of the same prose. Because there is some discussion, I did not just blank it and add a csd copyvio tag as is usual. Hopefully you guys can fix it even though a COI editor is involved. ww2censor (talk) 05:36, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
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