Talk:Smurl haunting

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POV[edit]

The tone of this article is far from neutral. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.246.232.41 (talk) 18:57, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You might give a hint as to specific neutrality problems and how you think they might be improved before tagging it again. - LuckyLouie (talk) 21:24, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"The Smurls claims gained wide press attention and were investigated by demonologists who encouraged the Smurls' supernatural beliefs" - There is absolutely no evidence that these investigators "encouraged" their beliefs that the Smurls even "believed" in the supernatural before this occurrence. Weasel much?

"According to The Wilkes-Barre Times Leader, Smurl told a reporter he had "surgery to remove water from his brain in 1983 because he had been experiencing short-term memory loss due to a case of meningitis in his youth."

The article is gone. Also the reporter and the original paper where these comments supposedly appeared in is not mentioned so it's a case of "maybe he said it, maybe not." I think it's also important to note another thing... it was the wife who claimed that she started seeing/hearing things first, not the husband, the article doesn't mention this.

"The Smurl haunting refers to claims made by Jack and Janet Smurl of West Pittston, Pennsylvania who alleged that a demon inhabited their home between 1974 and 1989" No they didn't. They lived in the house for 10 years. They claimed that the Demon showed up in 1985. Orasis (talk) 04:28, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Wilkes-Barre Times Leader source article isn't gone, it's just archived. I don't see anything wrong with summarizing what's contained in this source, e.g. Smurl's reported surgery. Do you have reliable sources that say differently? As for the dates the "demons" supposedly first arrived and who first claimed they did, do you have any reliable sources for that? And it would help if you refrain from taunts or personal attacks such as "Weasel much?" when discussing the article on this Talk page. Thanks! - LuckyLouie (talk) 13:59, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment[edit]

BTW, every time I see this article, I first read "Smurf hunting". --Hob Gadling 17:33, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright Infringement of this Article[edit]

Breaking from the usual tradition of someone putting copyrighted material into Wikipedia, we have here a case where someone created a derivative work of Wikipedia without license. (i.e. they are not honoring the GFDL) McDowellNews

Real class eh?

Entropyfails 19:37, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Debate?[edit]

"As to whether the haunting was genuine or an elaborate hoax is open to debate." I don't see any deabte here, so much as a few unsubstantiated claims that laugh in the face of the sort of facts and reason that Wikipedia is built on. Any thoughts regarding removing this and cleaning up the article? Alvis 17:59, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm all for it. --Hob Gadling 14:11, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm all for including more references that this is all a hoax.: Flora

The unprofessional and blatantly biased way this page has been presented and edited is exactly why no one trusts wikipedia. You clowns are a huge joke! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.130.52.148 (talk) 05:07, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Don't delete[edit]

Just move to Paranormal phenomenona/Ghost stories. We don't need conspiracy theories about wiki mods cooperating with entities from the other side. ^_^

Hello, My name is John Cifarelli, Paranormal Investigator and Psychic/Medium for my New Jersey Paranormal Research. I have been sensing that there are still presences in the home with the Smurl family lives. If anyone can give me information on how i can contact them i would like to speak to them ASAP. Thank You. John Cifarelli New Jersey Paranormal Research and HeadQuarters. 201-360-0297

As a psychic, wouldn't you already know that information? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.11.113.30 (talk) 18:11, 11 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Being as there is only ONE "signature" on what seems to be presented as at least TWO comments, is someone arguing with themselves? Even unsigned posts are noted as such; for instance, the last post above.Jororo05 (talk) 01:34, 24 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A Small Change[edit]

I just changed the end of the second-to-last sentence to read "...at the campground where they were staying." That anyone could publish "...at the campground they were staying at" is really more frightening than anything reported by the Smurls. Rt3368 16:29, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

More frightening yet is that someone with such poor grammatical skills can edit here! Jororo05 (talk) 01:37, 24 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hoax my ASS[edit]

This haunting finally got terminated by The Church, the Catholic Church terminated this haunting. 65.173.104.52 (talk) 23:02, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Would love to see some cites for this statement. I'm not choosing sides either way, but evidence is needed. Jororo05 (talk) 01:40, 24 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bishop Robert McKenna OP[edit]

I came to this article from the article on Bishop Robert McKenna OP which says "He attempted exorcisms in the Smurl haunting case, which case was described in various books and in the Fox TV-movie The Haunted." I think it would help this article to put this information in, and specify which of the attempts (where "priest" is mentioned, not bishop) was his. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 18:59, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Source? - LuckyLouie (talk) 14:49, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Citation not needed[edit]

Hi @User:TSlatter. Nearing the end of August 1986, Kurtz called for a group of scientists to offer free psychiatric and psychological help to the Smurls. But the Smurls felt they needed no help. “We think it’s important that Mr. Smurl and others in the Smurl family, submit themselves to psychiatric and psychological examinations,” Kurtz said. This is contained in the cited source, so no need for "citation needed tags". Thanks! - LuckyLouie (talk) 19:46, 28 August 2023 (UTC).[reply]