Talk:Sober (Lorde song)/GA1

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Aoba47 (talk · contribs) 22:20, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Grabbing this for a review if that is okay with you. Aoba47 (talk) 22:20, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lead and infobox

I am not sure about this part (is a two part song recorded by). You are only talking about this particular song in this article, and it does not include much if any discussion on "Sober II (Melodrama)” so I was a little confused by this introduction into the article.
For the first paragraph, I would use “Republic” instead of “Republic Records”.
For this part (which is followed by "Sober II (Melodrama)”), I would use “completed” instead of “followed” as the current phrasing makes me think that the second half of the song immediately follows it in the track listing.
I would include something about "Sober II (Melodrama)” in the body of the article.
For this part (and the tenor and baritone saxophones), remove “the”.
This sentence ( The lyrics detail the desire to tell someone how you feel about them and letting the evening antics take over to have the courage to do so.) seems rather wordy, and I would condense the information down. Some of the parts, particular “evening antics”, seems a little too informal.
For this part (to the minimalist production on the singer's Pure Heroine (2013)), specify that this is an album.
For this part (and the works of The xx), I do not think the “the” part needs to be capitalized.
I think that this sentence (The track's themes center on interdependence and possessiveness.) would work better in the first paragraph.
For the infobox, do you think you should include “alternative R&B” in the genre parameter?

Background

Song Exploder should be in italics.
Please link “Lorde” on the first mention.
I would try and combine these two sentences (She stated that she would often go drinking in her native country of New Zealand. She had a strong desire to fill in the quiet episodes in her life to cope with her heartache.). The first sentence seems somewhat random when I first read the paragraph, so combining them together may make the part about the “drinking” seem more relevant.
Please link “tiger” in this section and unlink it in the other section.

Recording and lyrical interpretation

Unlink Westlake Recording Studios as you already mentioned that studio elsewhere.
For this part (the tenor and baritone saxophones and a tiger's roar in its production), the references need to be put in the correct order.
I could not find “alternative R&B" in the source provided. Could you point this out for me?
Link “Rolling Stone” in this section and unlink it in the next one. The same comment applies for Pitchfork.
Please include the writer’s name from each publication in the prose.
This is a stupid question, but how did you get the subtitles in the audio sample? It is really cool!

Reception and promotion

Unlink Pitchfork, Rolling Stone, and PopMatters.
For this part (compared the track to Charli XCX's True Romance(2013).), I would make it clear that it is an album.
Please link Stereogum.
I would revise this part (Stereogum's Top 5 Songs of the Week list ) to (Stereogum's top five songs of the week list).
The first two paragraphs seem somewhat disorganized. I would try to add more structure.
This part (Lorde performed "Sober", with six other songs, as part of a re-imagined Vevo series at the Electric Lady Studios where she recorded most of her album and is part of the set list of her ongoing Melodrama World Tour (2017–2018).) is uncited.
Please link NME and Billboard.
For the third paragraph, please include the year for these parts (“on 15 April” and “on 2 June”).
I would put the “Promotion” stuff in its own section. The “Reception” section is incomplete anyway, as you do not include information about the commercial performance in the prose. I would also retitle it to “Live performances” as all of the “promotion” stuff is about live performances.

Final comments

Good job with this! Once my comments are addressed, I will promote this as a GA. Have a great rest of your week! Aoba47 (talk) 23:55, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I realized that the article needed more fixing so I added more information on the "Critical reception" and "Recording and lyrical interpretation" sections. As for the subtitles, you click on the name of the song in the audio box that you see in the article, then you will see three tabs on the top left corner of the page. Click on "TimedText", then select the language of your choice. After that, it gets tricky, because you have to estimate the second when the lyrics come on. To do that, you set each incoming line with a number. For example, for the first line of "Sober", you would write it as:

1

00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,900

Bet you wish you could touch our rush

You separate each line with a number, as the algorithm identifies it as the moment the line switches to the one that follows it. Hope this helps and thank you for picking this up for review!

I forgot to mention that I had a hard time finding a Wikipedia link for "electronic R&B" and "alternative R&B" was what showed up when I typed it on Google. I decided to link "electronic R&B" with "alternative R&B" instead. De88 (talk) 03:50, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Verdict

Thank you for addressing everything. I will ✓ Pass this. Have a great rest of your day and/or night! Aoba47 (talk) 16:59, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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