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Sam Wainwright[edit]

Wainright is no longer a member of the Council of Fremantle — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yeezylord18 (talk • contribs) 08:09, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Second councillor in Merri-bek (ex-Moreland) Council[edit]

Updated the page to reflect Monica Harte's election on countback to replace disgraced ALP councillor Milad el-Halabi after he was forced to resign due to being charged with vote tampering. Ref: https://www.greenleft.org.au/content/second-socialist-elected-moreland-after-labor-property-developer-steps-down

I note the totals in the sidebar are current but the section listing current councillors was not. Khardankov (talk) 11:19, 19 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Disagreement on ideology - needing input[edit]

Hi folks, @Helper201 and I are having a disagreement. See our discussion so far here:[[1]]

Helper201 has removed Marxism from under 'ideology' in the infobox, arguing that Marxism's article does not explicitly define Marxism as an ideology.

I argue that Marxism is an ideology in this context and that the article not giving Marxism as a political ideology is not reason to reject Marxism as a political ideology per Wikipedia is not a reliable source.

The original article gave two sources for this claim.^[1]^[2] and I have provided three more which purport Marxism to be an ideology:[2], [3] & the Oxford Handbook of Political Ideology (pg. 62)

Helper201 has not given a source for rejecting it as an ideology and has stated that "There's likely good reason if users are objecting to it being labelled an ideology."

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FropFrop (talk) 05:15, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@FropFrop, can you provide better sources than those from Socialist Alliance, liberationschool.org and

WP:BRITANNICA, preferably academic secondary sources. Socialist Alliance and liberationschool.org are primary sources, whereas Encyclopaedia Britannica is a tertiary source. While there is nothing wrong with some use of both types of sources (if reliable), in different contexts, there is no agreement on Encyclopaedia Britannica's reliability (refer to the wikilink for that source) and for claims about ideologies/political positions I think we should generally favour academic secondary sources where the authors are subject matter experts. I disagree with @Helper201's claim that it needs to be referred to as an ideology in the Marxism article as Wikipedia is not a reliable source, however I do think you need to provide sufficient sourcing. TarnishedPath^talk 05:34, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "What is Marxism? | Socialist Alliance".

[2] "The revolutionary party | Socialist Alliance".

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