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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 00:18, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Soetran was nicknamed the Clove Governor after he obliged families in Papua to cultivate cloves? Source: Soetran#Obligatory_Clove_Cultivation

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mayoralty of Bernie Sanders

Created by Jeromi Mikhael (talk). Self-nominated at 16:39, 13 December 2020 (UTC).[reply]

I'll review this nom shortly. Tomobe03 (talk) 13:17, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: I would suggest a general copyedit of the prose before the article makes it to the main page. Even though this is not a DYK criterion, the article would benefit from a quick once-over. Tomobe03 (talk) 10:26, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

No images used in the hook - so that segment is moot
QPQ met - reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Mayoralty of Bernie Sanders

@Tomobe03: Sorry, I think I need to clarify this: Wikiy is a mirror of Wikipedia. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 10:44, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I'll check that. Cheers Tomobe03 (talk) 10:48, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I did not find the site in the list of mirrors here, but let me check some more.Tomobe03 (talk) 13:26, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

comment: Earwig's copyvio detector flagged this article [1] as a suspected copyvio, but this appears to be a mirror. I have confirmed this with User:Diannaa and they will flag the mirror as such appropriately to avoid future confusion. Tomobe03 (talk) 14:47, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
comment: The phrase "Clove Governor" is found in the offered source as "gubernur Cengkeh" (p.28), AGF on foreign-language source

Regardless of the above, could you please check these sentences in Military career section:

Less than a year, in 1963, he was transferred to... - is this meant to be "Less than a year later..."?
In 1967, he was reassigned to East Java, promoted to Mayor, ... - did you mean Major? Tomobe03 (talk) 14:24, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am satisfied that the DYK criteria are met. Tomobe03 (talk) 17:11, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Soetran/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Gerald Waldo Luis (talk · contribs) 15:02, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will review this article. This is my first bio GAN I review, and I would love to learn many things from this decision. Gerald WL 15:02, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

Keep either "Indonesian" or "Javanese." "Javanese" already covers Indonesia as a whole. In addition, recommend linking. Gerald WL 15:07, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Link regent. Gerald WL 15:07, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Link Trenggalek. Gerald WL 15:07, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Link Irian Jaya. Gerald WL 15:07, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Per tag, I suggest expanding the lead. Gerald WL 14:05, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done and lead expanded. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 14:29, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Military career

Paragraphs 1, 2, and 3 used two citations, placed them at the same place. Mind relocating to the claim(s) it supports? Gerald WL 07:28, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done except for the 3rd paragraph; citation 1 and 2 is reinforcing each other regarding the dates and fact. --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 13:47, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"After the war"-- what war? Gerald WL 07:28, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 13:47, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Trenggalek to Trenggalih

The subsection name is not so clear. Suggest renaming to "Renaming Trenggalek" Gerald WL 07:28, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 13:47, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There's no word on the aftermath: is it renamed or not. Suggest adding that up, if there is one. Gerald WL 07:28, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 13:47, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Parasamya Purnakarya Nugraha

First two sentence supported by two citations. Suggest relocate. Gerald WL 07:28, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 13:47, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Legacy

"the Soetran award"-- suggest capitalizing to "the Soetran Award." Gerald WL 07:28, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 13:47, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

Three redlinks. Either interwiki link, create stub (if person warrants a WP article), or remove redlinks. Gerald WL 15:07, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done Removed redlinks. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 00:48, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Governor of Irian Jaya

Link Irian Jaya. Gerald WL 14:08, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Acub Zainal is redlinked. Suggest removing. Gerald WL 14:08, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done except point 1, as it is already linked in the lead. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 14:29, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Irian Jaya earthquake

"As a result, 12 large villages in the X Valley were swallowed by the Earth." What is "X Valley" and suggest rewording the metaphoric "swallowed by the Earth." Gerald WL 09:10, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done Ah, my apologies. The X Valley was without name prior to the 2000s; it is now known as the Baliem Valley. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 12:35, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jeromi Mikhael, last thing: in paragraph 3, ref 31 and 27 is used at the same time. Similar case at "Death", last sentence. Mind relocating or removing one of them, if appropriate? Gerald WL 12:53, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 13:01, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jeromi Mikhael, in my opinon this has passed the GA criteria. Congrats! Gerald WL 13:03, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Gerald Waldo Luis, I've done what you requested. Please check. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 14:29, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jeromi Mikhael, see "Irian Jaya earthquake" above. After that is resolved, I'll do a linking copyedit, and that should make it for a good article. Apologies for the wait. Gerald WL 09:11, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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