Talk:Sofia Rotaru/Archive 1

Edited for better English first half of the article

An anonymous American of Hungarian ancestry hopes that trying to improve the English usage will be helpful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.49.79.243 (talk) 20:47, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so much!--Rubikonchik (talk) 11:44, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: no reason to put "Moldovan" language

And no reason not to put it. Please note that I have nothing at all to do witht the Moldovan/Romanian controversy, and fully respect your opinion. I just put Moldovan language into the page because:

• During most of her career, Sofia's songs were said to be sung in Moldovan (Moldavian, to be precise). This is not a question of opinion or anything - officially, there was never any doubt. (let's leave the political reasons WHY it was this way to the article about Moldovan Language, ok?)
• Even today, there are many people who call their first language Moldovan. Yes, this language might be identical to Romanian. That does not make it the same language, because a language is a sociopolitical construct, not a linguistic one. Even if it does make it the same language, it is still called by two different names, and there is no reason not to put both of them here.
• Her songs were written in cyrillic. If there is anything that differenciated Moldovan from Romanian proper, it was the script.
• in controversial situations like this, we should respect the opinion of the persons speaking the language themselves. In 2004, Sofia herself in an interview said "we spoke only moldavian at home" - if you can read Russian, see http://www.prazdnikinfo.ru/5/34/4/i21_11634.htm for the interview. You might hate her for this if you want :-)

rado 06:57, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Official name

Isn't her "really official" name Ротарь, not Ротару? At least surnames of her parents are Ротарь, Ротару might be a romanized version, but is it official in her documents? rado 08:20, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

The presidential edict that conferred the Hero of Ukraine title on her gives the last name as "Євдокименко-Ротару". It cannot be more "official" than that. Sashazlv 01:27, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

The last "u" in Romanian names is generally very short (just like ending "i") -- in Transylvania names usually don't even have an ending "u", so the name would "Rotar" (BTW, the name means "wheel-maker").

Anyway, the version using "ь" is using Moldavian Cyrillic alphabet, while using "у" is a transliteration of the Romanian name. bogdan | ^Talk 08:39, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

Her Official name (девичья фамилия) Ротар [1]. Rotaru - scenic pen name. --Yakudza 18:24, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

-Ротарь form was probably used before, as it also appears on Fortuna (fan club) site. I heard that Pieha advised Sofia Rotaru to add an "u". This being not confirmed, it may be plausible that in the beginning the name was spelled as Rotar'. It is clear however that today the name is spelled Rotaru.--Rubikonchik (talk) 21:51, 9 February 2008 (UTC)Rubikonchik

-Sofia Rotaru declared herself of Moldavian origin in numerous interviews and always said that she sang (and sings) in Moldavian. I agree that Romanian might be similar to Moldavian, but this may not be a matter of discussion in this article, which is clearly about Sofia Rotaru and not about the name of the language. By the way, it would be interesing to know how popular she is in Romania and how many times she went there (if any at all).--Rubikonchik (talk) 21:51, 9 February 2008 (UTC)Rubikonchik

Genres

There's a Rotaru fanboy working in Russian, English and probably other Wikipedias. Little can be done about it, but still, would you please remove "electronica", "rap" and "r&b" from genger infobox? There's no way a Soviet pop singer can be either of three. If she have at one moment parodied rap, it does not make her rapper. Netrat (talk) 21:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, she did sing all of this, and still sings in these genres. Soviet or not Soviet has little to do with this.--Rubikonchik (talk) 23:32, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

The song is officially considered as the first rap song ever performed.

Hi, User:76.70.101.236 your edit, seems to merit a discussion here...--Rubikonchik (talk) 00:21, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Добавьте пожалуйста это:

http://www.shoowbiz.ru/showbiznews/4578.html

17 Апреля 2009, в интервью "Брак Пугачевой разрушил КГБ" «Экспресс газете», Александр Стефанович, снял завесу слухов про фильм «Рецитал» и отсутствие связи с фильмом «Душа» в 1980 году. В один из первых съемочных дней фильма Рецитал Алла Пугачева появилась в вычурном наряде, не соответствующем ее образу в фильме, и пожелала в таком виде сниматься. После предложения Стефановича переодеться Алла Пуагчева вцепилась в асситентку и разорвала на ней кожаное пальто. Вся группа приехала отказалась с ней работать. Фильм «Рецитал» был закрыт, а через несколько месяцев Бородянский и Стефанович написали новый сценарий, был снят фильм «Душа» с Софией Ротару в главной роли. Последовал развод Стефановича с Пугачевой.

Про Пугачеву Стефанович ответил на вопрос: "А как вам удавалось морочить голову советской прессе?

" - Это был кураж. Помню, как-то звонят к нам в квартиру из «Литгазеты». Там готовили материал к 8 Марта и попросили какую-нибудь новость об Алле, буквально пару строчек. Я с ходу говорю: «Записывайте! Тираж ее пластинок достиг ста миллионов экземпляров!!! (На самом деле он и до миллиона тогда далеко не дотягивал.) А еще - японская газета «Асахи» назвала Аллу Пугачеву, наряду с Юрием Гагариным, величайшей личностью XX века». Потом эту «залепуху» перепечатали многие газеты.

Или, скажем, будущему главному редактору «Огонька» Льву Гущину я дал от имени Аллы огромное интервью на три «подвала» для «Комсомолки», где она «признавалась в любви» к Мандельштаму и Цветаевой, рассуждала о французском кино, японской поэзии и т.д. Интервью имело эффект разорвавшейся бомбы. На советской эстраде появилась певица-интеллектуалка! Эта статья потом ходила по рукам, сброшюрованная в маленькую книжку.

Про Ротару Стефанович сказал следующее: "Видел Соню несколько дней назад. Она меня познакомила со своей внучкой. Ротару тоже недавно отметила юбилей, но как выглядит и как поет! Публика ломится на ее концерты. И без всяких прощальных туров." 789kirkimir (talk) 20:04, 18 April 2009 (UTC)