Talk:Ssshhhh...Koi Hai

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Proposed merge

I think this article will be better off merged with its sequel, unless we can find secondary sources to document the notability of this show on its own.--Nsevs • Talk 20:28, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think this article should be merged with ssshhhh.. phir koi hai.. because ssshhhh.. koi hai... was a different drama and i am going to make this article longer. I am searching for more sources.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Coolguysfwn (talk • contribs) 16:55, 18 March 2008

Sounds good. Take a look at WP:FICT, the relevant (proposed) notability guideline, to get a sense of what to be looking for. --Nsevs • Talk 17:51, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing cast section. Still.

@Anurag suman m. p. and Kaitudi: Since both of you have been embroiled in whatever cleanup you have done to this section, when I flagged the cast section for cleanup the first and second time, I included links to WP:TVCAST, which should have been the guidelines you both were adhering to. It is somewhat frustrating that Anurag deleted the cleanup templates apparently without actually looking at these guidelines. So I'm curious why the cast list looks nothing like what that guideline suggests, and why we needlessly wind up with duplicated cast members across a multitude of episodes.

The purpose of a cast list is to organise cast members according to their introduction into the series. The version I currently see is partly a cast list for season 1, which includes sloppy, confusing slashes, and the season two list diverges from cast list and seems to be an episode list. But in an episode list, it would seem we'd provide details about each episode, rather than a cast list, so that doesn't seem to work here either. I mean, somehow, random children managed to compile List of PAW Patrol episodes, yet I don't see any needless cast/character lists there. Is there a rhyme or reason to the changes you're making here, or is this totally random? I'm hoping experienced television article editor AussieLegend can offer some guidance, because this seems an amorphous confusion. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:11, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I read the guidelines so I arranged the cast with their respective appearance. We live in India and we have watched whole series. I think,the second season of ssshhhh koi hai should have separate Article. I don't know why it merged with season 1. Because it was long running series with different star cast. Anurag suman m. p. (talk) 05:13, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There is no justification for having a second article. A change of cast doesn't mean that the series becomes a different series. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:28, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I read the guidelines. But this an anthology series. So, It cannot be arranged character wise, It should be arranged episode wise because of anthology series. Kaitudi (talk) 05:38, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can see there is no reason why the article cannot comply with WP:TVCAST. Merely being an anthology series is not an excuse. We have other anthology series articles and they comply. --AussieLegend (✉) 11:28, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Kaitudi: There is no provision at WP:TVCAST for "It should be arranged episode wise because of anthology series". That's something you've made up. A cast list is a cast list. It's not rocket science. Even something like this would make more sense:

Ali Merchant as:
- Rahul in "Jauhar"
- Inspector in "Terrace"
- Rajkumar Aditya Singh in "Senapati"
- Narendra in "Jai Maa Durga""

This is at least consistent with the purpose of a cast list, which is to clearly indicate and focus on the cast. The way it's currently structured, readers don't even get the benefit of knowing that some actors are in multiple episodes. @AussieLegend: do you know of any anthology series that might be a good match for this article? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:28, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't this cast and episode list. If you want to make changes, then you can change name of this section "Season 2" according to these arrangements. But please don't edit this cast and episode list. Kaitudi (talk) 19:20, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Who are you to ask people not to edit? We have community standards, if you deviate from them, you need a local consensus to do so. If you don't have a local consensus, the community norms remain. It confuses me why you're so reticent to understand why the version you chose could be problematic, and that it differs needlessly from WP:TVCAST. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:11, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Continuous problems with slashes and ambiguity.

@Anurag suman m. p. and Kaitudi: While I understand the both of you are working to flesh out the information in this article, the removal of clarification templates without actually resolving the issue is not constructive. Some of the content is entirely confusing to someone like me who has never seen the series, and my attempts to fix it have been reverted, and my efforts to have one of you clarify the content, has also not had useful results. Example:

Shaleen Bhanot as Rajveer / Raj Malhotra

Here, thinking it was a nickname, I changed it to:

Shaleen Bhanot as Raj "Rajveer" Malhotra

Anurag said it was not a nickname and changed it back to the first confusing version. I then flagged it for clarification. Anurag then changed it to:

Shaleen Bhanot as Rajveer "Raj Malhotra"

So what does that mean? I still have no idea, because now it looks like a nickname, but an incorrectly formatted one. Kaitudi then changed it back to the first, confusing version, saying "these are different characters".

So what are we trying to communicate here? Are there two characters, Rajveer Malhotra and Raj Malhotra? Does Rajveer not have a last name? Are they twins? Are they related somehow? How come nobody is bothering to use complete thoughts to present this content, like:

Shaleen Bhanot as brothers, Rajveer and Raj Malhotra

Shaleen Bhanot in a dual role as businessman Raj Malhotra and his employee Rajveer.

Shaleen Bhanot as Rajveer in the episode's first segment and Raj Mahotra in the second segment.

How is anybody supposed to know what all these ambiguous slashes mean? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:49, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Raj Malhotra" is the reincarnation of "Rajveer" and "Uma" is the reincarnation of "Vibha" and they are lovers on their previous birth and separated by a ghost named "Chandrika". And In their next birth they kill Chandrika and live happily. Kaitudi (talk) 09:17, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cyphoidbomb, I had fixed the issue. Kaitudi (talk) 09:28, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Kaitudi: Thank you, I made minor changes here. You both have to remember that we write for a global readership, not just fans of the series, so we need to communicate in complete sentences, for people who have no idea what the show is about. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:53, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of episodes

@BHAGWAN and Anurag suman m. p.: Do either of you have a plan for the list of episodes section? It's been in the article for a long time, and apparently whomever created it has never seen a proper episode list at Wikipedia. Currently this section is basically a duplicate of the cast listing, which is already problematic, as it doesn't quite resemble a normal cast list. In the episode list, there are no episode summaries, which one would intuitively expect to find in an episode list. See SpongeBob SquarePants (season 8)#Episodes for example. Any clarity that either of you could bring to this issue, would be appreciated, thank you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:07, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I make edits in cast list as mentioned in its episodes on hotstar. The name of characters in the series is difficult to remember. If this is not allowed I am sorry. BHAGWAN (talk) 07:27, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

cast list

I make edits in cast list on the basis of cast mentioned in hotstar episodes of the series, name of characters in the series is difficult to remember, if it is not allowed I am sorry BHAGWAN (talk) 07:20, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]