Talk:St George's, Hanover Square

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Moved back from St George's Mayfair

The official title of the Church is St George Hanover Square, or St George's Hanover Square - and it has worldwide notability by that title. Should anyone wish to move it again, please formulate a request for discussion in the proper manner. In the unlikely event that there should be another with the same name, let's use disambiguation, not elimination. Cheers Kbthompson (talk) 17:11, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've created a couple of re-directs from similar names, but certainly Hanover Square is always the disambiguator I've associated with it. David Underdown (talk) 07:54, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Move

I've only ever known the church to be called 'St George's, Hanover Square', and I find 'St George Hanover Square' awkward, as the name of the church. Googling the two suggests that 'St George Hanover Square' is used mostly as part of 'the parish of St George Hanover Square'. Does anyone object to a further move (over the redirect) to St George's, Hanover Square? Xn4 00:25, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

not famous any more

The list of people married at St. George's reads from something like an old 1900 guide book. If you don't have pages for the people, take them out. If you have info that people were married there do have pages, put them in. Nobody knows who any of these people are any more. 100.15.117.207 (talk) 00:11, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 3 August 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved to St George's, Hanover Square. DrKay (talk) 19:57, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

St George's Hanover Square Church → St George's Church, Hanover Square – 1) Compare Google hits for St George's Hanover Square Church and St George's Church Hanover Square; 2) This is the normal format for a church name which includes a local designation, e.g. St George's Church, Leeds. LookLook36 (talk) 13:08, 3 August 2020 (UTC)—Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 20:24, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support St George's, Hanover Square, returning to the original title from which it was moved without discussion two years ago. This is by far the WP:COMMONNAME. It may not be the standard for churches in Britain in general, but it is a common standard for churches in London; many of them use this style. See Category:Church of England church buildings in the City of Westminster. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:16, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- This form of the title, without "church", is ideal. The problem is that the parish of St George Hanover Square is (unsurprisingly) similarly named. The two should be consistent, but clearly they need different titles - this is probably how the use of the word "church" cropped up. (Westminster St George's (UK Parliament constituency) was also historically titled St George's, Hanover Square.) LookLook36 (talk) 12:32, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - Not really an issue, given St George's, Hanover Square already redirects to the church and a hatnote will resolve the constituency. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:24, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Necrothesp: My instinct is that the church and the parish should, other things being equal, use the same form. I propose St George's, Hanover Square (parish) for the parish. A quick Google search suggests that the parish is often known by this form - even "parish of St George's, Hanover Square", with its clumsy double genitive, is common. However, other Westminster pairings of church and parish aren't similar at all (see below). Perhaps it doesn't matter. LookLook36 (talk) 12:58, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Church	Parish
St Anne's Church, Soho	St Anne Within the Liberty of Westminster
St Clement Danes	St Clement Danes (parish)
St Martin-in-the-Fields	St Martin-in-the-Fields (parish)
St Mary le Strand	St Mary le Strand (parish)
St Paul's, Covent Garden	St Paul Covent Garden
St James's Church, Piccadilly	Westminster St James
St Margaret's, Westminster & St John's, Smith Square	Westminster St Margaret and St John

St George's, Hanover Square (parish) would be fine. The church is the clear primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:01, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support St George's, Hanover Square, for reasons given by Necrothesp. (Keep parish page where it is, it appears to be conventional from this list to use forms without genitive and comma.) LookLook36 (talk) 08:54, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.