Talk:Star Drive

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I don't think "The Silence Between the Stars" was ever released.83.254.23.46 22:52, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

→It was released as a PDF if I recall correctly. 128.120.190.97 19:58, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

→→Unfortunately no, according to J. Butler it was never published. It is even possible the novel was never even finished, since the page count varies greatly on different online bookstores. I removed the novel from the published novel list. Ivoelezovic 08:50, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I want to point out that in the list of Stellar Nations the Hatire Community seems to be mis-spelled. Someone should correct that. - 62.16.235.58 (talk) 04:38, 11 August 2008 (UTC) Um. Hey, that wasn't so hard. :) - --62.16.235.58 (talk) 02:30, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved, given the existence of style guidelines on trademarks as article titles and considering that the other concerns have been assuaged. Harej (talk) 03:12, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Star*Drive → Star Drive – Per MOS:TMRULES, unpronounced characters in trademarks should be used on first reference only. Per WP:TSC, punctuation and non-Latin symbols should not be used for article titles. Star Drive is preferable to StarDrive as that seems to be the way it's listed commercially ( at least on Amazon). Ibadibam (talk) 05:23, 8 March 2014 (UTC) Ibadibam (talk) 05:23, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - The publisher, as far as I know, always prints the name as "Star*Drive" in their materials. See this for example. Shannon Appelcline's book Designers & Dragons from Mongoose Publishing refers to it that way as well. BOZ (talk) 17:11, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- There's been a lot of discussion at Wikipedia about how to deal with trademarks that use punctuation in non-standard ways. The current consensus, as reflected by the guidelines linked above, is that the way a word is written in promotional materials doesn't bear on what is considered encyclopedic for Wikipedia. It's a very tricky question, because to really tackle it you have to address the semiotics of written language itself. I imagine the guidelines will continue to evolve, but that's where we are at the moment. Ibadibam (talk) 22:58, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - Which is why I brought up the second example, where an independent source uses "Star*Drive" as well, to make it not just about what TSR did with the name. BOZ (talk) 03:23, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose because if the * is removed then the title becomes StarDrive, and not Star [space] Drive. DeistCosmos (talk) 18:59, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Cammelcase is acceptable so it could be StrarDrive instead. Howerver, according to the nominator it appears that Star Drive is used more so I don't see that as an issue.--70.49.72.34 (talk) 19:12, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"Stardrive" and similar is often used in science-fiction for interstellar spaceships' propulsion systems. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:26, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Both Stardrive and Star Drive are currently redirects to Star*Drive. There are existing articles for:
  - Faster-than-light
  - Hyperdrive
  - Jump drive, with redirects from:
    - FTL Drive
    - FTL Travel
  - Warp drive
And numerous other articles on specific drives, both proposed and fictitious. Other articles link to these pages, rather than the Stardrive redirect, so it doesn't look like there's much danger of confusion. Ibadibam (talk) 22:58, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support move to Star Drive or StarDrive per WP:MOS-TM unless the title is pronounced "Star Star Drive," in which case that should be the title. Dekimasuよ! 23:14, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support as the request. Bandy boy (talk) 11:29, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose as per the notes above about other uses of "star drive" -- but weak, because the other options already redirect here. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 13:22, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support per MOS:TM, with a preference for the move as proposed. No objections to camel case, however. --BDD (talk) 23:45, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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