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Accreditation

Stratford University's accreditor, ACICS, is now recognized by the U.S. Department of Education and the Council of Higher Education Accreditors (CHEA). The adverse action taken by the last administration has been vacated and the status of ACICS has been fully restored by the Secretary of Education. In addition to institutional accreditation, Stratford continues to be programmatically accredited by ABHES, CCNE, ACF, and CEA. Health Science programs are accredited by ABHES. The nursing program is accredited by CCNE. The hospitality and culinary arts programs are accredited by ACF. The ESL program is accredited by CEA.

Revised accreditation status of Stratford University is pending further review.

"After the decision by District Court Judge Reggie Walton, the Department of Education will be tasked with reviewing additional documents that the judge found were improperly overlooked in 2016. And the order issued by DeVos last week laid out additional details for that review process that will mean the accreditor must meet fewer requirements before accreditation is restored."

The recognition of ACICS by the Department of Education is not permanent yet, as a legal requirement to review all documents was not met when it was invalidated in 2016. Most institutions have already applied for accreditation elsewhere, including Stratford University.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2018/04/13/even-second-chance-federal-recognition-profit-accreditor-has-unclear-outlook

Bcf1291 (talk) 16:37, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The bulk of the article in question (99%) was original and not copied from the Stratford website. Only the specific and legal wording relating to the accreditation had some sentences copied. I have revised the wording of the accreditation section to eliminate the copyright infringement problem. However, it is difficult to not have some wording overlap on a paragragh of this type. I am sorry for the delay in this submission. I was on vacation and have not checked the Internet for a few weeks.

If the editors believe that this revision of the accreditation paragraph is sufficient, I would like to reinstate the entire article.

Page referenced in possible copyright violation: Stratford University About

Offending paragraph in the original Wikipedia article about Stratford. Stratford University is accredited by the Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools (ACICS) to award associate's, bachelor's, and master's degrees. The Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools is recognized by the United States Department of Education and by the Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA). Stratford is a member of the SOC Consortium and is recognized by the Veteran's Administration for the delivery of education. In addition, the Culinary Arts Degree and Diploma Programs are accredited by the American Culinary Federation (ACF), which also is recognized by CHEA. All degree and diploma programs have been approved by the State Council of Higher Education for Virginia (SCHEV).

Revised paragraph for the Wikipedia article about Stratford. Stratford University is accredited by the Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools (ACICS) to award degrees through the master's level. The Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools is recognized by the United States Department of Education and by the Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA). Stratford is a member of the SOC Consortium and is recognized by the Veteran's Administration for the delivery of education. All culinary programs have a second accreditation (programmatic) with the American Culinary Federation (ACF). Stratford has been authorized to award degrees and diplomas by the State Council of Higher Education for Virginia (SCHEV).

{{help}} I have edited or removed the offending sentences. What is the next step in getting this article reinstated? rick 02:14, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just add the content back to Stratford University, replacing everything currently on the page. Giggy ^{Talk | Review} 06:50, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

{{help}} I have added references as requested. Can Reference warning on the top of the page be removed? rick 03:55, 15 March 2010. References have been added as requested. The editor who requested references has retired. I have deleted the tag after waiting a few days for a response.

The school motto and mascot were deleted and the page was reverted to a prior point because of suspected vandalism. These changes were correct and have been reinstituted. Thanks for monitoring the page. rick (talk) 19:39, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Revised accreditation status of Stratford University. Stratford University's accreditor, ACICS, is now recognized by the U.S. Department of Education and the Council of Higher Education Accreditors (CHEA). The adverse action taken by the last administration has been vacated and the status of ACICS has been fully restored by the Secretary of Education. In addition to institutional accreditation, Stratford continues to be programmatically accredited by ABHES, CCNE, ACF, and CEA. Health Science programs are accredited by ABHES. The nursing program is accredited by CCNE. The hospitality and culinary arts programs are accredited by ACF. The ESL program is accredited by CEA.

Disclaimer:

This is not the school's "page" on Wikipedia. It is an independent article about the school based on what has been written about the school in reliable independent sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bcf1291 (talk • contribs) 23:45, 13 April 2017 (UTC) [reply]

for profit / for benefit status

I finally found a reference to Stratford's benefit status and changed all relevant wording. It is included in the B Labs listing. This is the most accurate and reliable source for Benefit Corporation status. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VirginiaTechGuy (talk • contribs) 16:23, 26 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback. I am working on this. Unfortunately the Commonwealth of Virginia does not have this status online. We may have to wait until the Certified B-Corp status is achieved. At this point, I only have an internal newsletter that describes the change. Stratford may issue a press release which could also be used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VirginiaTechGuy (talk • contribs) 14:57, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There has been recent edit warring over whether Stratford University is a for-profit university, for benefit, or possibly something else. Reliable sources are the best way out of this. The only independent RS coverage I found was several articles from the Baltimore Sun 1 2 which describe the school as 'for-profit', and this daily press article which also describes the school as 'for-profit'. Additional sourcing is welcome. Dialectric (talk) 19:10, 2 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stratford University recently filed with the Commonwealth of Virginia as a for-benefit corporation. This application was approved and is now official, as of June 30, 2015. A benefit corporation places the mission of the organization above stockholder interests. A for-benefit status insulates the Directors from stock holder lawsuits and gives them full authority to execute the organization mission. A benefit corporation is audited annually, for compliance with its mission, using third party standards. The University has applied to be a Certified Benefit Corporation, the gold standard in B-Corp Certification. This application is pending, but will be approved. Stratford scored 135 points and only 90 are required to meet the standard.

This benefit corporation status must be differentiated from a simple for-profit status. Most of the unscrupulous operators in this space are publicly traded for-profits, where the Board of Directors is required to maximized stockholder value. If those organizations were for-benefit, the Directors would have different priorities. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VirginiaTechGuy (talk • contribs) 18:20, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have provided several WP:RS sources which describe Stratford as for-profit. If you want to change that in the article, you will need to provide a reliable source that supports your description. Without a ref, your content is original research. We have the article Public-benefit nonprofit corporation and the category 'Category:Public benefit corporations'. Once you provide a reliable source, it may make sense to wikilink the article and/or add the category.Dialectric (talk) 00:46, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Reads like an advertisement

The Wikipedia page for Stratford University reads like an advertisement. Stratford University is a for-profit college that has been labeled as a visa mill. ^[1] And it is accredited by a questionable accreditor (ACICS). According to the College Scorecard, student outcomes include a 25 percent graduation rate and a 24 percent student loan repayment rate. Typical debt after graduation is $32,625 and earnings after school are $35,500.CollegeMeltdown (talk) 16:18, 1 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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References

^ "Grassley Examines Lax Oversight of 'Visa Mills' Offering Visas to Foreign Students". https://www.grassley.senate.gov. Retrieved 17 January 2020. {{cite web}}: External link in |website= (help)
^ https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?438498-Stratford-University

Way too detailed (and POV, too)

Ssg2442 has repeatedly reverted others' edits to restore material that is inappropriate for this article, including a detailed listing of degree programs and descriptions of routine services and units such as the "Welcome center." The restored material also has several WP:MOS issues such as bolded words and common nouns capitalized.

I encourage our colleague to (a) discuss these issues here in Talk instead of edit-warring with multiple editors and (b) review our standards for college and university articles. ElKevbo (talk) 20:07, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ElKevbo thinks he owns all college/university's articles on Wiki. Look at his recent edits where he mentions all unnecessary information about schools and if anyone tries to revert or explain then the whole blame game starts. This is why Wikipedia is losing its value. I do not own any article here and neither POV to elevate any article. If something you feel is unnecessary please elaborate instead of blaming others with war edits. It's not about what you like to mention or not like to mention on articles. What readers can take from it is really important. I hope you get some sense while you are reading your own edits. Thanks. user talk: ssg2442 18, June 2019

ssg2442, you are clearly whitewashing this article. Stratford University is facing serious challenges with accreditation, dwindling enrollment, and campus closings, and you are covering it up. CollegeMeltdown (talk) 02:42, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

User:CollegeMeltdown, you are exactly correct in your assumption. serious problem with accreditation? currently there is no issue with it as the school still holds its ACICS which was recog by DOE. Campus closings are due to financial issues which i found a source for it and removed three campuses from info box and lead. nothing to mention about declining enrollment - In america, many Big schools are suffering to meet their expectations. So no wonder this small school takes a hit. In my opinion i dont publish facts unless they are widely discussed by many credible sources.

If I say that you are clearly promoting negativity then its so wrong on my part because like many reviewers everyone feel they own a piece of portion here like a personal property. I wish you could find my edits on the history of this article. Anyway, I have got a lot to work and achieve rather than wasting my time here on senseless discussions. user talk: ssg2442 18, June 2019

False and misleading claims

This article made the claim that Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) had designated Stratford University as "military friendly." VA does designate any schools as "military friendly." Need to review the entire article for false and misleading claims. CollegeMeltdown (talk) 03:16, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for correcting this. You know this better. user talk: ssg2442 18, June 2019

Updating Stratford

I would appreciate a discussion this time before a significant amount of information from the Stratford article is deleted. Until just recently, the article sounded like an advertisement rather than a source for information about the school.--CollegeMeltdown (talk) 13:24, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Stratford University new website

I'm Angel Rai, As a adminstrative assistant of Stratford University. I want to verify the following information is correct.

Stratford university other all campus closed. Currently only one campus located in Kentucky still operating. The old website is www.stratford.edu

New live website is https://stratford.university. President Name: Silas Hawthorne

Reference page for above information. https://www.hozpitality.com/StratfordUniversity/read-article/stratford-university-journey-in-education-from-1976-to-today-10332.html User1AngelRai (talk) 17:37, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stratford University went into Chapter 7 bankruptcy, which means it is liquidated. Whatever that entity in Kentucky is, it is not the Stratford University referenced in this Wikipedia article. jfeise (talk) 17:43, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But Stratford University move to new location in Kentucky.For more information you may check the current location address form Stratford University Linkedin official school page following by reference following URL.

https://www.linkedin.com/school/stratford-university/ User1AngelRai (talk) 01:26, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not buying it. The "reference page" you provided above claims that the institution is accredited by HLC but HLC's website does not include any listing for a Stratford University.

I'm not sure what is happening here but it sure looks suspicious e.g., the institution's "Board of Trusties" (sic) are three of its own employees. So we're going to need credible sources to support your claims. ElKevbo (talk) 01:41, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ElKevbo, this whole thing stinks. Drmies (talk) 02:50, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SU staff contacted with HLC for accreditation web source. They respond that we are working on it. It will take around 3 months complete procedure. Be trust 🙏, if you are going to add as additional Stratford University website https://stratford.university as temporarily. Later we provide you HLC's source once they done. We appreciate your understanding. Thanks User1AngelRai (talk) 02:58, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but no--I do trust, however, that you will not disrupt the article any further--goes for you too, User:Watson.USA.Editor. Drmies (talk) 03:19, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Drmies: It appears that we were correct to be skeptical of the claims that the university has been reopened. USA Today recently reported on an investigation into "imposter websites" for this institution and eight others. ElKevbo (talk) 01:50, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Holy shit, ElKevbo. What will these bastards think of next? Drmies (talk) 19:03, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Grassley Examines Lax Oversight of 'Visa Mills' Offering Visas to Foreign Students". https://www.grassley.senate.gov. Retrieved 17 January 2020. {{cite web}}: External link in |website= (help)

[2] ttps://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?438498-Stratford-University

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