Talk:Studienbüro für Spezialflugzeuge SB-5

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Sources and Notability[edit]

The criteria of Wikipedia:WikiProject_Aircraft/Notability#"Types" is not reached in any regard. Regarding point 5 this study has obviously never reached such a status, regarding point 6 also not, as it was a mere study (additional problem; developper is not at a producing company). Regarding sources:

Gross' research led to finding reports (seemingly not more than few sentences only) mentioning the SB-5 during one year at the SFV.
The source for Gross' drawing on the other side was the drawing published in Inter Avia at 20 of May 1944; this publication was about the SB-2 and mentioned the SB-5. It is even known a letter from Inter Avia to Professor Amstutz at ETH (superviser of the design bureau) in which it was written, that the publication of this article in Inter Avia had not been much echoed by July 26th 1944 - only the swedish "Flyg" had taken up the article within these two months (and again: an article about the SB-2).
The "external link" led to the drawing but the blog is useless in its main topic, claiming it to be a "project of Pilatus", as the SB-5 had nothing to do with Pilatus (Pilatus had lost far more money than they had ever received for building the SB-2, so would not have been interested in loosing money again, this is what Gross writes explicitly, and that there was no market for such "overdesigned" (according to Pilatus) aircraft).

How to handle this you may decide of your own. Fact is, that both sources, Inter Avia 1944 and Gross 2019 mention it in close and only connection to the SB-2 (and I propose to disregard the misleading content of the blog) thus there is no independent mentioning of SB-5 of its own at all. Anidaat (talk) 07:33, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not surprised. Years after the main author of the article was banned, we're still finding the extent of the messes he made. He still shows up every so often, either as a sock account of on an IP. BilCat (talk) 08:08, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Background[edit]

When the SB-2 was ordered, it was ordered as a test aircraft, although it never was tested in the way it was meant to be in the end. To understand this you can access Gross' book for some pages - on page 13 you find, what the whole thing was about. It seems essential to me to understand this context.--Anidaat (talk) 07:55, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]