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"At the end of Barbarossa, StG 1 had lost 60 Stukas in aerial combat and one on the ground." What date do You consider as the "end of Barbarossa"? 91.14.62.228 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:14, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Formed in November?[edit]

The article claims this unit was formed in November, so after the end of Invasion of Poland. But for example Steve Zaloga; W. Victor Madej (31 December 1990). The Polish Campaign, 1939. Hippocrene Books. p. 107. ISBN 978-0-87052-013-6. and John Weal (20 October 2012). Bf 109D/E Aces 1939–41. Bloomsbury Publishing. pp. 4–. ISBN 978-1-78200-526-1. describe this unit as operational, and in fact as the one that carried the first combat mission of the war on early morning of September 1st. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:39, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Light/fire ship[edit]

Re the edits today; British sources describe this as a fireship — with fire extinguishing equipment. Why are should we rely on German sources? Dapi89 (talk) 15:10, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bertke & Smith may have a mistranslation from the original reports. I've provided one English language and one German sources ("Vessels Lost in WW2 Recorded on the Memorial at Tower Hill: Pilots and Lighthouse Services". 2009. Retrieved 20 October 2019. Rohwer, Jürgen; Hümmelchen, Gerhard. "Seekrieg 1940, November". Württembergische Landesbibliothek Stuttgart (in German). Retrieved 20 October 2019. that state it was the Trinity House lightship LV 60 on the East Oaze that was sunk on 1 November (that is also the date give in Bertke & Smith). There is also a newspaper report from 1957 [1] that calls the vessel a lightship. Nthep (talk) 16:15, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Dapi89: Additional source East Coast War Channels in the First and Second World War. Historic England. 2014. p. 63. I've yet to find any evidence of a fire-fighting ship called East Oaze especially one which coincidentally was sunk off the sands of the same name on the same/following day as the light vessel on the sands. Even if you aren't prepared to accept these sources can at least agree that all of them, including Bertke & Smith, say the sinking occurred on 1 November 1940 not 2 November as the text currently suggests. Nthep (talk) 11:16, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. Dapi89 (talk) 11:49, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A Feuerschiff (see https://www.elbe3.org/historie.html) is a floating lighthouse (quote "Ein Feuerschiff ist ein schwimmender Leuchtturm, ein Leuchtfeuerschiff.") MisterBee1966 (talk) 18:42, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]