Talk:Suleyman Shah

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Süleyman Shah is an important figure in the Turkish history. He deserves more than a stub page. I will wait for a week and if nobody makes improvements, I will. Deliogul 15:32, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In Turkish History , there were two Suleiman Shah, one of was the founder of sultanate of rum, one of was pre-ottoman ruler.Suleiman shah and Kutalmis articles are mixture of two suleimans. It's wrong. 85.99.66.205 20:49, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Needs revision[edit]

This article needs a big revision. According to article Kutalmış, there were two leaders named Kutalmış. Kutalmış of Osmanlı died in 1077. That means Süleyman was not born after 1077. According to article Ertuğrul Ertuğrul was born in 1191. So Süleyman became a father when he was at least 114 years old. Furthermore, according to this article Süleyman died in 1227, which means that he was at least 150 when he died. Are we going to believe this ? Not me, thanks. On the other hand, all names of the family were Turkic origin other than that of Süleyman. This further reduces the credibility of Suleyman Shah. Probably Ertuğrul's father was Gündüz Alp and not Süleyman Shah. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 11:49, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong Father[edit]

Kutalmish was a seljuk...

And the father of Süleyman Shah was Kaya Alp...his name show's it...

Süleyman bin Kaya = the son of...it means...

Dilek2 (talk) 20:12, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong[edit]

This Article is absolutly wrong...But it was well written before

The name of his sons is nonsense...

Look please the Turkish Wikipedia...

Under Ogullari:

http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%BCleyman_%C5%9Eah — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.248.140.111 (talk) 19:39, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please relate to link cited[edit]

I know that the tomb of Suleyman Shah is guarded by Turkish forces, but the direct cited link^[1] writes clearly that it is "Kurdish controlled". Please check it word by word. Unless this source is replaced by a better one, I suggest we stick to its original statement. -霎起林野间 (talk) 14:46, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Turkish military enters Syria to evacuate soldiers, relocate tomb". Reuters. Retrieved 2 December 2015.

Duplicate[edit]

This article, supposedly about Süleyman Shah, actually focuses mostly upon the history of his tomb. In fact, there's not really any information in this article about him which isn't found in the article on the Tomb of Süleyman Shah. I have to question the value of having this article at all. The two should probably be merged into a single article. Chamboz (talk) 20:16, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comparing them more closely, I see that a lot of the text here is actually identical to that found in the Tomb of Süleyman Shah article. I'm cutting down the text in this article to just information about Süleyman Shah himself, as his tomb is clearly a separate topic. Chamboz (talk) 20:19, 23 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

according to Gündüz Alp, Suleyman Shah is not the father of Ertuğrul[edit]

Gündüz Alp was the father of Ertuğrul (13th century) and the grandfather of Osman I, the founder of Ottoman Dynasty.^[1] Coins minted by Osman I during his reign, reads "Osman, son of Ertuğrul, son of Gündüz Alp”.^[2]

According to references, Süleyman Şah was a myth to place him into a position similar to Suleiman ibn Qutulmish.108.18.143.93 (talk) 18:18, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ İnalcık, Halil (2007). "Osmanlı Beyliği'nin Kurucusu Osman Beg (Osman Beg, The founder of Ottoman Dynasty)". Belleten. 7 (No: 261). Ankara: 487–490. {{cite journal}}: |number= has extra text (help)
^ Akgündüz, Ahmed; Öztürk, Said (2011). Ottoman History - Misperceptions and Truths. IUR Press. p. 35. ISBN 978-90-90-26108-9. Retrieved 28 December 2019.

[1] "Turkish military enters Syria to evacuate soldiers, relocate tomb". Reuters. Retrieved 2 December 2015.

[Halil-2] İnalcık, Halil (2007). "Osmanlı Beyliği'nin Kurucusu Osman Beg (Osman Beg, The founder of Ottoman Dynasty)". Belleten. 7 (No: 261). Ankara: 487–490. {{cite journal}}: |number= has extra text (help)

[Gündüz-3] Akgündüz, Ahmed; Öztürk, Said (2011). Ottoman History - Misperceptions and Truths. IUR Press. p. 35. ISBN 978-90-90-26108-9. Retrieved 28 December 2019.

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