Talk:Sydney rock engravings
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several issues
[edit]Just wondering, why is this article written in first person?
Shouldn't it talk about the local indigenous people of Sydney such as the Guringgai people rather than just the generic term "Aboriginal"?
I have also heard that there are rock engravings of the Harbour Bridge, bringing the age of the most recent to less than 100 years. Hypershock (talk) 23:32, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
responses to "several issues"
[edit]- Not sure what you mean by "written in the first person". I don't think there's a single "I" in there. Maybe you mean things like "we don't know". Yes that can prob be improved. I'll do that now.
- The engravings span several different groups and clans, so probably better to use a less specific term than to risk a mis-attribution.
- I'm not aware of the engraving of the harbour bridge. Can you find evidence of that? If so it would be good to mention it in the article.
RayNorris (talk) 05:53, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
- Something brought this topic to mind again for me, and I realised I never responded.
- I recall seeing photos of the Harbour Bridge as part of the rock art while I was attending Berowra Boys Brigade in the late 90's, when one of the leaders brought in a guest who had grown up in the area and was quite old at the time (probably deceased by now). Among the photos of the history of the area were some photos of Aboriginal rock art. However, memory is a fickle and unreliable thing, and I have may have mixed up the facts - the photo remains clear in my memory, but circumstances in which I was shown it or under which it was taken may have been confused in my memory).
- I do have some 3rd party evidence for this though: this article which includes the quote "Present in the crowd at the Bridge’s opening ceremony was a contingent from the Aboriginal community of La Perouse on Sydney's Botany Bay. Impressed with the new structure, some of the La Perouse residents reportedly marched home and carved images of the bridge in the rocks near their home. Those pictures became part of a much larger and more ancient suite of rock engravings including pictures of fish and a 12-metre-long shark. Sadly the rock art at La Perouse has not survived, but the Sydney Harbour Bridge continued to feature in the art produced by the community’s Aboriginal artists including the carved boomerangs and shell models sold to generations of tourists."
I wonder what the longest is between two posts on a talk page by the same personHypershock (talk) 14:02, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Should the phrasing of "dated from 45,000 to 50,000 years BP, [the engravings] would indicate that there was human settlement in Sydney earlier than thought" be changed? Indigenous Australians have always known that they're the world's oldest culture. This article and this article talk about how Indigenous oral history, which has been used as evidence by Indigenous Australians to prove that they are the world's oldest culture, is often disregarded when estimating how long Australia has been inhabited. I'm concerned that the phrasing of that sentence has colonial bias. Luminalyte (talk) 02:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
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