Talk:Tachibana clan (kuge)

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Tajima Mori[edit]

I removed the following passage:

The lineage, however, may go back even further, to [[Tajima Mori]], a Korean who, according to legend, introduced oranges, called ''tachibana'' (橘) in Japanese, to Japan in the first century CE<ref>Frederic, Louis (2002). "Japan Encyclopedia." Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press.</ref>.

I'm not sure what kind of misunderstanding is involved here. I checked Kojiki, Nihonshoki and Shinsen Shojiroku but none of them claims that Tajima Mori 田道間守/多遅摩毛理 was the ancestor of the Tachibana clan concerned. There cannot be a genetic relationship between the relatively new clan of imperial origin and the mythical figure whose legend was placed in distant past. --Nanshu 23:02, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, as you're obviously more familiar with the original sources than I am, I certainly won't argue with you. Though, it doesn't need to be explicitly stated in the legends for a later scholar to say "gee, there was this legendary figure who introduced tachibana oranges into Japan. And there's a noble family oddly named after, of all things, oranges. Maybe there's a connection?" Right? LordAmeth 09:38, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you are interested, check the Shoku Nihongi. In an article of th 11th month of 736, Prince Katsuragi (Tachibana no Moroe) quoted an imperial edict that had been issued to Agata-no-Inukai no Michiyo. You will see why the supposedly odd name was chosen. --Nanshu 22:53, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]