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"Gloria Brown"

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Multiple sources like this, this, this, this, etc. (not great sources, I know, but the best we have) give Tami Lynn's birth name as Gloria Brown. That was included in this article in this 2008 edit, but then removed in 2013 here with the edit summary "Tami Lynn told me that her birth certificate reads Tami Lynn, and there is no known birth record for Gloria Brown". Can anyone shed any light on this? Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:19, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Given it was my edit in 2008 that added her "birth name", presumably from this source, I may have a conflict of interest in defending that position. It seems to me that the sources listed here, which might all be deemed 'unreliable', are nevertheless a good deal more reliable than "Tami Lynn told me...", which carries no weight whatsoever as far as a reliable source is concerned. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 23:52, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It would be interesting to know where the person who edited RYM got their info from originally. This edit (currently reverted) suggests that we may need to keep an eye out for more information... UPDATE: Can you see these posts? Apparently she was reported dead in August, but the latest news is that "she is alive and living in a memory care unit" in Florida. Not a WP:RS though. AND: The B-side of "I'm Gonna Run Away From You" was "The Boy Next Door", co-written by Melvin Lastie and "Brown", who various sources suggest is Gloria Brown, said to be Tami Lynn's real name.... Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:00, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Revisiting this..... Her husband is Deane Rink, and the official marriage license between them (in Manhattan, December 17, 1999) gives her name as Tamie Lynn. That's Tamie with an "e", which is a spelling on some other official records. It gives support to the theory that that is her real name, not Gloria Brown. Where did the name "Gloria Brown" originate? @Derek R Bullamore: - any further thoughts? I can't access the edit history on RYM to see where that name came from - can you?. Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:05, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Guilty, m'lud. I think it came from here, or possibly this source as I mentioned above (in November 2019). What about that B-side songwriters credit you cite above ? As you state Gloria Brown is given in more than one source, although none are impeachable. Conversely why drop the 'e' as above. It seems a bit of a bugger's muddle to me. How do you know that her husband is/was Deane Rink ? Well, at least the ball is out of my court now ! - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 21:12, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There used to be several mentions of her husband, which have now disappeared, but here's one. Maybe I should contact Soulwalking.... Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:17, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

PS: I'm removing "Gloria Brown" for now - there seems to be too much uncertainty. If a better source can be found, we can reinstate it. Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:39, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, fine. Whenever I use Soulwalking, it always conjures up in my head Archie Bell & the Drells' "Soul City Walk", which then stays in my head for a day or two. So thanks for that. Anyhow, I think Soulwalking is generally pretty reliable and, as I far as I am aware, is deemed to be a reliable source. I can never be too sure, because those in charge are forever changing their minds on what is deemed reliable, or not. There's a list somewhere on Wiki, but I can never find it when I am most in need. Perhaps Soulwalking can throw some real light on Lynn's real name. Are you going to write to them ? In the meantime "(Doin' that) Soul city walk y'all" - bugger it. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 21:42, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've left a message on the Soulwalking guestbook. It may become clearer if there are any obits for Ms Lynn that get their info straight from her family, rather than from here. Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:47, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

PS: The guy at Soulwalking thinks that they got their info from an interview with her "a long time ago", which was reported by the guy who runs the Soul&Jazz&Funk site. So, I'll try contacting them (except that I can't - their login / contact system doesn't work.....). In the meantime, Soulwalking has changed its own site. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:12, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I got your e-mail - thanks. As you say we are now seemingly awaiting a decent obituary - although she was not very high profile, bless her, to warrant a full page in The New York Times or even The Times. You have done all that you can. Let's wait and see what transpires. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:14, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Birth and family details

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Belatedly, I've looked at these edits made by a new editor in August 2020, but quickly reverted. They are indeed unsourced. However, they do appear to be based on personal family information - detailing the names of relatives and so on - and also give a quite different birth date - January 25, 1939 (not 1942). It's obviously commonplace for people in the entertainment industry (or their managers or agents) to knock a couple of years off an artist's age if they think it would help their career, so the date is plausible. The problem in this case is that there appear to be no reliable obituaries or death notices of Ms Lynn - the only published obituaries, in blues and soul magazines and websites, for example, rely heavily on previously published bios largely written by publicists or what has been written on this page (for instance, repeating the claim she was born "Gloria Brown"). I mention all this simply because it may help future researchers. Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:47, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

PS: The obit by Tony Burke in Blues & Rhythm mentions that she "attended elementary school with" Allen Toussaint - born 1938 - and Ellis Marsalis Jr. - born 1934. At least, they give some support for a birth year earlier than 1942. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:25, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Resolved

OK, I'm confident that I've now got the correct information, essentially via family members, which confirms some of the earlier edits, and matches that in some of the earlier published sources. Essentially, she was born as Gloria Brown in 1939, and married Melvin Bazile in New Orleans in 1957. She remarried in 1999. Hopefully, I have now corrected the article. Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:11, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]