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http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2012/04/bengal-tigers-in-r-cage.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.149.31.47 (talk) 20:59, 28 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]


"I am having a hard time finding links regarding the LDPs allegation of corruption towards Tareq Rahman. For some mysterious reason, I cannot access the information on the Daily Star Archive. Also, does anyone have published sources regarding "Hawa Bhaba" (specificaly any mention of Tareq Rahman)?" - The unsigned comment above was posted by Rms1 - Arman Aziz 03:41, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I found some information in the Time Magazine. I quote: "The roundup has netted former ministers from the two main political parties and, most recently, even Zia's own son Tareque Rahman. Last week Rahman, 40, appeared in court to face a charge (which he denies) that he extorted $147,000 from the owner of a Dhaka construction firm." http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1601618,00.html --Johnamiller 04:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"He was elevated to this position in June 2002, in response to rising demand from ranks and files of the Party, in recognition of his contribution in last general election, which brought a landslide victory. " - Is there any reliable source for this line? I never heard that Tareq had any contribution in 2001 election or anybody wanted him as a joint secretariat of BNP, actually the post " senior joint secretariat" was created only for him by his mother. Tareq never went to an university, he only have passcourse degree. This guy is a shame of Bangladesh and to his father who was a great politician. This article is kind of biased. - fnashid —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.4.69.227 (talk) 15:35, 7 April 2008 (UTC) [reply]

I removed the claim that Tareq Rahman has a university degre. If anyone has proof, please cite the source. rafatsadiq

Some....hang on...A LOT of the written English in this article is atrocious. It has obviously been written by some very badly educated people who don't have a clue about grammar. They should get off their computers and go back to school! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.138.98.253 (talk) 12:40, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I quite agree. The article is not only biased, but it's full of grammatical errors. I don't know how to flag it for the editors, though. But whoever contributed to it seems to think highly of Tarek Rahman. The point of an encyclopaedic entry is that it should be neutral - somebody tell them that. HHandSM (talk) 16:37, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV dispute[edit]

I edited a good bit out of the "corruption charges" section (formerly "false corruption charges"), but there's still quite a bit of opinion. For example:

under "Political career": "Tareq was only a teenager when his father was assassinated. But he was matured enough to understand the significance of what his father had tried to achieve. He is deeply committed to safeguard sovereignty and promote development of Bangladesh. He is in favour of promoting investments for industrialization and development of the service as well as Information Communication Technology (ICT) sector that will result in creation of employment opportunities. He believes in the expanding country’s private sector, establishing an efficient and dynamic administration."

"Though Bangladesh Awami League and its branch organization have always kept officially making abusive remarks on Tarique's father and the founder of BNP Ziaur Rahman, Tarqiue's visit urged a change in the BNP's view to Sheikh Mujibur Rahman. That series of meetings with grass root activists helped his image to be more like a popular party organizer than just the son of the party founder or the party chair."

under "Confusion over truthfulness of charges": "As of Tareq Rahman during his party BNP's being in the power has been presented as the one to be in the driving seat of overall financial corrupts of the country; his obscure trial, torture and overall inability of plaintiffs to prove him has a corrupt, gave birth of great deal of confusions among people as it has been a question that how far the media allegation against him were true."

"Above fifteen months long trial of Tareq Rahman which has not been able to prove him as a corrupt in any single charge, have urged those who kept bashing him to lose the momentum. The gradual fall of Prothom Alo circulation indicates to be a result of their irrational claim once."

The above text seems to be biased in favor of the Bangladesh Nationalist Party (BNP) to which Rahman belongs. However, there is apparent anti-BNP bias under the section "Torture on Rahman Inside Custody": "However, other than partisans no one actually cared about his vertebra. The way his action violated the very normal way peoples of Bangladesh lived in. The only proper punishment for him would be hanging him to death. However due to political scene change he actually survived with broken backbone, quite lucky considering the fact assassination of Political Figure in Bangladesh in Common Place."

I'm not sure whether or not it would be considered bias, but there's also a good deal of fluff here [e.g. "After Tareq waved from his hospital cabin window, many supporters went emotional with tears."] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.196.27.214 (talk) 01:46, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think "After Tareq waved from his hospital cabin window, many supporters went emotional with tears." is sheer genius. We should keep that bit in. Nakohifi (talk) 15:16, 29 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Spelling[edit]

What's the original spelling of Tarek Rahman? We have three different spellings in this article, Tarek Rahman, Tarique Rahman and Tarek Rahman. There must be a spelling used in official purposes. Confirmation of the proper spelling with a third party reference will be highly appreciated. Cheers. - Niaz(Talk • Contribs) 10:31, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup[edit]

This article does not sound like authentic Wikipedia article with a purpose of educating one for research or other use. The article rather sounds like work of a party Faithfull’s extremely biased, politically motivated felicitation work to pamper Taraque’s trodden and rotten image among common people of Bangladesh. Said torture on Tareq is unquestionably deplorable, but five years of misrule of BNP-Jamaat, alliance government has lot to do with notorious parallel power house Howa Bhavhon led by Taraque Zia AKA Taraque Rahman.

There are too many allegation against him, please find only few of them mentioned here:

Facilitate to resurrect extreme fundamentalist as well as small bandits of Islamic terrorists group aligned with international terrorist organization.

Extreme torture on political dissidents and tormenting repression on religious minority

Restoration of anti liberation forces into politics and government

Making corruption a common practice among government

Partially blamed for giving a bad name to Bangladesh becoming the most corrupt country in the world by international reputed organization for five times in a row during BNP-Jamaat alliance rule.

Money laundering millions of dollars earned through illegal means

I will make humble request to renowned Wikipedia authority to re-compose it for establishing fact rather then fantasy.

Shamim Chowdhury Maryland, U.S.A. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.250.52.155 (talk) 07:31, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This article is written more like a story instead of an encyclopedia article. Some phrases clearly indicate personally invested tones, such as:

to nourish and to groom leader from bottom
His impulsive efforts commonly instilled as the Bogra Model, a new popular thought given to root level party workers
Tarique, the elder son of former most popular President of Bangladesh
Tarique's passion has remained in politics, being inspired by the ideals of his father as well as his mother
Rahman rapidly acquired a reputation for being a "Hatchet Man" for enforcing party discipline

...and many more.

I will tag different unreferenced claims for citations and failure to do this eventually removes those texts from this article as per WP policies. Cheers. - Niaz(Talk • Contribs) 10:41, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Don't you believe President Zia was the most popular president? A man of 27 years, who born after Zia's death can't guess how popular he was. ask seniors who can tell about Zia's funeral and read more rather than to be a politically partisan. even if you don't like this page can just shut down. Ruthless using of tags is not expected. Let the write up goes on it's own way. It will fix automatically.(Smileybeing (talk) 03:31, 2 December 2009 (UTC))[reply]

I suggest you provide a link from a reliable source to support the statement that Zia was "the most popular president". Thank you. --Ragib (talk) 03:58, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Smileybeing, please read Wikipedia policies first and then come to debate with a so called 27 years old person :). Cheers. -- Niaz(Talk • Contribs) 10:55, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The quality of writing in this article is very poor, and many of the comments are written with a clear slanted BNP bias. Not to say Awami is remotely better, but this article needs to be wholly rewritten, especially given the familial deference in Bangladesi politics means he will probably run for high office some day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bartacus1 (talk • contribs) 20:16, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What's his name?[edit]

Is it Tarique? Or Tareq? Or something else? Aditya(talk • contribs) 13:52, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As per The Daily Start, it is Tarique Rahman [1]. - Niaz(Talk • Contribs) 17:41, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
We need to move the article then. Aditya(talk • contribs) 02:17, 28 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Correct spelling of his name is Tarique Rahman.(Smileybeing (talk) 03:22, 2 December 2009 (UTC))[reply]

I think we need to move the article. -- Niaz(Talk • Contribs) 10:47, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved the article to Tarique Rahman. Cheers. -- Niaz(Talk • Contribs) 10:49, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Horrible article and Tarique's alma matter[edit]

This seems have been written by a Chhatra Dal or Jubo Dal cadre. The English is very poor and a lot of the content is biased towards BNP i.e. "While visiting, Tungipara sub-district, Tarique visited the tomb of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman and paid respects on behalf of the BNP, though Awami League consistently criticize Tarique's father Ziaur Rahman, the founder of BNP."

Plus, given the widespread rumours in Bangladesh of his illiteracy, can we have a reference on the Alma matter section of the Infobox, where its given University of Dhaka. The BBC suspects he dropped out of an Australian university without a degree (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6430063.stm). I personally have heard the Principal of St. Josephs in Dhaka saying that he was kicked out by the school in the 1970s while studying in the 7th or 8th grade. Anyways, I'm not saying that should be in the article, but clearly there is great ambiguity regarding his education. You simply cant name the country's best university as his alma matter given the widescale speculation that he does not hold any degree, from anywhere.--202.191.127.5 (talk) 16:32, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Educational Qualification[edit]

Does anyone know what is Tareq Rahman and Coco's educational qualification ?

Tarique Rahman was a student of St. Joseph Higher Secondary School (Dhaka). He passed his [Secondary School Certificate (HSC)] from this school and was admitted to Dhaka University[2]. He was being barred from attending the University by the then autocratic Army Dictator of Bangladesh Lt. Hussain Muhammad Ershad[[3]]. That was the ending of his formal education at that time. Nowadays, it has been reported that he is studying Law, at his exile life in London, United Kingdom. He will be a Barrister-at-Law[[4]] in a year or two. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The secret reporter (talk • contribs) 10:21, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It is ridiculous that to hear that Tarique Rahman was a student of St. Joseph Higher Secondary School (Dhaka). I was a student of that school and I can confirm that he had never attended that school. My friends in Dhaka Residential Model College confirmed that Tarique Rahman was a student of Dhaka Residential Model College. Besides, you can check the Wiki Article Dhaka Residential Model College, in the list of notable alumni you will find Tarique Rahman. Most significantly, he was the son of a military person, it is obvious that he would attend in an institution from where he can get benefit as a son of military official. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Endeavorbd (talk • contribs) 02:06, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please Read the Details of Tareq Rahman father Mr.Ziaur Rahman life in Wikipedia where it clearly says" Zia was a leader of the Bangladesh Forces and the Z Force during the country's liberation war from Pakistan in 1971. He had broadcast the Bangladeshi declaration of independence on behalf of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman". If its a fact then how it is possible that in his Education history ,its mentioned that his father announced the freedom of Bangladesh.Thats why I have edited this.Mean while we have several sources to prove that he decleared freedom on behalf of Sk.Mujibur Rahman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.178.76.183 (talk) 18:07, 20 September 2016 (UTC) I have edited that Ziaur Rahman decleared independence of Bangladesh which is not correct.Please read the Wikipedia article on Ziaur Rahman — Preceding unsigned comment added by Padmameghnajamuna (talk • contribs) 17:43, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Tarique Rahman's education in Adamjee Cantonment College and in Dhaka University[edit]

This is a bogus information. I was a student of Adamjee Cantonment College during Tarique's study time and we all knew he was studying in Residential model college (SSC, he dropped in HSC and did not study ever, that what we knew that time), regardless Adamjee Cantonment is just beside. He never was a student of Adamjee Cantonment C. Anyone who was a student of Adamjee Cantonment during 1990s can confirm this.
Second, Tarique Rahman never studied in DU. Student life in DU is very long like 5~ 7 years. Tarique Rahman was a student in DU and passed these long time silence from not being in any activity in DU? Has anyone ever heard of Tarique Rahman is in doing this or that in DU ??!! Bogus. He could not have been in DU.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.108.116.129 (talk) 19:49, 24 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, our personal experience is not acceptable as a reference on Wikipedia: please see Wikipedia:No original research for more information on why this is so. We need to use reliable, secondary sources to back up what's written, especially in biographies of living persons. The reference given at the moment is one of his own books, and that's also not good enough, as that's a primary source. If we could find a reliable newspaper or book confirming the details of his education, that would be helpful. Ruby Murray 22:26, 24 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Based on what you claming Tariqu's being studnet in DU and Adamjee, is ALSO PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. ITS NOT AN OFFICIAL REPORT. ITS WRITTEN BY SAIFUR, A BNP MEMBER. Can you provide any official report of tariqu's being student of Adamjee and DU ? Ruby , Probably,ITS YOU WHO NEEDS TO PROVIDE PROOF TO ADD AN INFO. Where you got the information that Tarique Rahman is graduated from Dhaka University? From a newspaper article written by BNP member. Can you show any other newspaper article of him being student of Dhaka university? A person like Tarique studied 6~ 7 years in DU and there has not been any single news ?? In Dhaka UNiversity alumni page do you see Tarique's name? Can you proof exactly which year did he get into the Uni? Which year gradute? Which hall he was attached to? 192.108.116.129 (talk) 19:50, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No, I'm not claiming he was a student at DU and Adamjee. But on Wikipedia, a newspaper report, if it's a reliable, secondary source, is considered better evidence than anyone's personal experience. Ruby Murray 22:22, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I've removed the vague and unreferenced claim of "according to a newspaper report". If there's a newspaper report, then it should be added. At the moment the claim that he went to DU is referenced by his bio page at the BNP website, and by the book The Political Thought of Tarique Rahman. The BNP reference is certainly a primary source, but it's not yet clear whether the claim in the book is a primary or secondary source, as it's a collection of articles by various sources, including fellow BNP members (and not by Rahman himself, as I incorrectly guessed above). Can someone please find a copy of the book, and verify the page number and author by whom the claim is made? Thanks, Ruby Murray 10:29, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think the information of Tarique studied at DU, found in that website and in the book is nothing just a rumor. If he really studied at DU there should be lots of references and proofs for the claim. But I see that it is totally a disputed info. this source says Tarique studied at Law Faculty under Dhaka University Institute of Education and Research for a short period. Which reveals that tarique didn't complete his study at DU and the subject he studied is not clear at all. Law or Inetrnational relations? - Rahat (Talk * Contributions) 11:06, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Ctg4Rahat. I suggest we remove "graduated from", and use "studied at Dhaka University" instead, until someone can find a reliable, secondary source to confirm what he studied, and whether he actually graduated. Ruby Murray 14:23, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
We should also mention that all sources which claim Rahman studied at DU, are from BNP. Rahat

This factual mistakes has to be edited atonce:([[Tareq Rahman father Ziaur Rahman decleared the independece of Bangladesh.Which is not correct.Please see wikipedia article on Ziaur Rahman From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaPadmameghnajamuna (talk) 17:50, 22 September 2016 (UTC) ziaur Rahman.Details are here: Zia was a leader of the Bangladesh Forces and the Z Force during the country's liberation war from Pakistan in 1971. He had broadcast the Bangladeshi declaration of independence on behalf of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman.--Padmameghnajamuna (talk) 18:00, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism[edit]

How these info can be regarded as criticism which changes the the WP:NPOV tone of the article to fan's POV??? This info can be added to the other sections of the article but not in criticism section. - Rahat (Talk * Contributions) 10:04, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In a verdict given by a metropolitan court of Bangladesh on 17 November 2013, the judge of the court stated that Khadiza Islam, the one who gave the money to Mamun had not told the court that Tarique had demanded bribe or pressurised her to give her the company the work.[1] Tarique had not given a confessional statement in the court under Section 164 and no document was presented at the court that proved Tarique had taken the money.[1]

He said the claim that Tarique had pressurised Khadiza through Mamun to demand the money was also not believable.[1] Eventually, on 9 December the red notice against Tarique Rahman has been withdrawn [2][3]

I've merged the criticism section to "Exculpation from case", per Wikipedia:Criticism. Ruby Murray 11:33, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ a b c http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/11/18/weak-charges-get-tarique-acquittal
  2. ^ http://newagebd.com/detail.php?date=2013-12-09&nid=76113
  3. ^ http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2013/12/09/red-notice-for-tarique-dropped

Connection to terrorism[edit]

Apparently he had close ties with Islamic militancy. A quick search has unearthed the following sources: 1, 2, 3, 4, and [5]. I am sure there are more. Aditya(talk • contribs) 09:02, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikileaks[edit]

There should be mention of the vast array of commentary found on him in the Wikileaks cables. Especially what the American ambassador had to say about him.--Bazaan (talk) 16:25, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a credible source that has information on that? Aditya(talk • contribs) 17:05, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Do you not read the papers? Of course there are credible sources--Bazaan (talk) 18:26, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Poor sourcing for corruption allegation[edit]

I was reading the corruption allegations and one of it literally cited the official Awami League website as a source. Is this a joke? AyazKader (talk) 11:33, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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