Talk:Ted N. C. Wilson

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Views on Last Generation Theology[edit]

The only citation given is a (currently defunct) link to a video of the actual speech. If true, this needs better citation. Otherwise this appears to be POV, original research, etc. Please link to a newspaper or other source that brings out the connection between Ted Wilson and LGT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Databases (talk • contribs) 19:58, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

We find clearly the concept is laid out by Ellen White that the Latter Rain prepares the "last generation, Early Writings, p. 85.

"At that time the Latter Rain, or refreshing from the presence of the Lord, will come, to give power to the loud voice of the third angel, and prepare the saints to stand in the period when the seven last plagues shall be poured out." Also, "Early Writings, p. 71.

"I saw that many were neglecting the preparation so needful, and were looking to the 'time of refreshing' and the latter rain to fit them to stand in the day of the Lord, and to live in His sight. 0, how many I saw in the time of trouble without a shelter! They had neglected the needful preparation; therefore they could not receive the refreshing that all must have to fit them to live in the sight of a Holy God. Those who refuse to be hewed by the prophets, and fail to purify their souls in obeying the whole truth and who are willing to believe that their condition is far better than it really is, will come up to the time of the falling of the plagues, and then see that they needed to be hewed and squared for the building. But there will be no time then to do it, and no Mediator to plead their cause before the Father."

and Testimonies to Ministers, p. 506. "The latter rain, falling near the close of the season, ripens the grain and prepares it for the sickle. The Lord employs these operations of nature to represent the work of the Holy Spirit. As the dew and the rain are given first to cause the seed to germinate, and then to ripen the harvest, so the Holy Spirit is given to carry forward from one stage to another the process of spiritual growth. The ripening of the grain represents the completion of the work of God's grace in the soul. By the power of he Holy Spirit the moral image of God is to be perfected in the character. We are to be wholly transformed into the likeness of Christ....Simbagraphix (talk) 01:24, 26 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The concept of Last Generation Theology described in this wiki article is incomprehensible to any non-SDA, and the reasons for any controversy on this topic between Adventists are unclear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:07, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"Controversies"[edit]

There has been a bit of back and forth regarding the addition of a "controversies" section. I think the there should be such a section, because Wilson has been one of the more controversial G.C. presidents. However, the information needs to be presented in a manner which does not make value judgments. Spectrum is a great source, but it is decidedly in the "liberal" wing of the SDA viewpoints. Countermanding viewpoints from more centrist and "traditional" sources should also be sought. I'll bet those of us who are interested in this topic can work collaboratively to give a balanced, informative section regarding the issues which have caused considerable discussion within Adventism. Any takers? 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 20:40, 26 May 2016 (UTC) He has only been 'controversial' in contrived 'controversies' in the columns of Spectrum and other liberal magazines, you need to find real issues in mainline or true news sources.Simbagraphix (talk) 11:51, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The previous sentence seriously misstates the extent of controversy generated by Wilson's views and actions. In particular, many church administrators and theologians in North America, Europe and Australia have opposed his views on the ordination of women, on the role of Unions in church administration, on the literal interpretation of Genesis 1which Wilson has maintained is a "recent" creation, and to a lesser extent, his views on Last Generation Theology.

We are in the 21st century; Wilson is in the 19th[edit]

I am fascinated by the fixation of some on Wilson's international travels, especially his visits to Africa and with African politicians. He would do well to balance these by visits with Adventists and politicians in the developed world, especially those in North America. Despite his American heritage, Wilson does not understand, appreciate, or trust such people--as a former world Church vice president once told me. He is intimidated by critical scholarship and learning and thinks they are the greatest threats to the Church. He seems most comfortable in the Third World and with the ideas of the 19th century and the state of the Church in those days. For a recent reaction to Wilson by a loyal but insightful retired Adventist clergyman, see "Ted Wilson and the Scolding of Adventism." Wctrenchard (talk) 21:05, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]