Talk:Telur pindang

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Telur Pindang in Malaysia[edit]

I'm from Johor, and I love telur pindang. In the 90's it was still very commonly given as gift to wedding guests. I always dibs the telur pindang whenever my parents returned from a wedding. My aunt knows how to make it and used to take orders for wedding until she got too old to do it. Nowadays it has become rarer, and if it's made its only for special guests. I was surprised to find that other states don't have it, and upon further observation I find it's much more common among the Javanese, of which I am partly descended. Must have been brought over here from Java by the Javanese migrants who modified the recipe because teak is not common in Johor.210.19.13.194 (talk) 04:29, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Question of origin[edit]

Sure today telur pindang can be found in both Indonesia and Malaysia. However, the origin is most likely from Java. In Indonesia, telur pindang is most prevalent in Javanese cuisine, as part of Javanese dish, usually consumed together with gudeg and krechek, or as part of tumpeng. It is a prequisite dish in besekan berkat of Javanese Slametan ceremony. Telur pindang is also popular in Palembang, South Sumatra, possibly also due to Javanese influence. In Malaysia, telur pindang is most prevalent in the state of Johor, especially among descendants of Javanese immigrants that came to Johor around a century ago. The historical links is actually quite clear here, from Javanese cuisine influence that later spill out to Sumatra and Malay Peninsula. I say we should correct the country of origin only to Indonesia, specifically Java. Gunkarta talk 21:33, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is all quite plausible, but needs a reliable source which clearly states its origin. The current reference says nothing about that, except for calling it an "Indonesian" dish (without specific region). The page contains some problematic statements, e.g. "Another possible theory suggests that it was probably brought by Javanese immigrants instead, that settled in Johor about a century ago" references to this paper[1], which however does not present a theory about the origin of telur pindang at all, but covers the descendants of Javanese immgriants in Malaysia. Whose theory is it then? If this is just self-made based on historical facts by plausible inference, it is clearly OR. –Austronesier (talk) 14:50, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]