Talk:Tessy Antony de Nassau

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Spelling[edit]

  • Is it Anthony or Antony ? I have seen both spellings. Hektor 16:26, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Succession[edit]

  • Does anyone know whether or not the baby will be in the Luxembourg list of succession. Hektor 16:26, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Probably not. I don't think illegitamte children are allowed in the line of succession. Unless the baby is legitimized, he or she probably won't be and chances are, won't have a title either. Morhange 17:58, 9 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Problems[edit]

This article has several problems:

  • It is entirely unsourced.
  • Its subject is non-notable.
  • Its subject is not a member of any royal house; therefore the stub is incorrect.

I rm the inappropriate stub; I'm tempted to prod the whole thing, but I'll leave it alone in hopes it may be improved and its subject be shown to have some notability. John Reid 23:32, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Added a source from a Luxembourgish (is that right, ha) online paper. Morhange 01:38, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I dislike editing conflicts of any kind, so I'm not likely to oppose you strongly; but I suggest you either abandon this article or invest a lot more into it. Your source is in a foreign language and -- judging strictly by length -- says little. There is no evidence that the subject of the article is in any way a notable person. Simply having a relationship with a notable person (granting, for the sake of the argument, that the third son of the titular ruler of Luxembourg is notable) does not confer notability upon oneself. John Reid 06:18, 26 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Name[edit]

Shouldn't this article now be titled Tessy de Nassau? Charles 18:52, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, her legal name is Antony. The article should be moved back. By Luxembourgish law women retain their birth (or maiden) name at and after marriage.--Caranorn (talk) 19:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not move back to the incorrect de Nassau designation. Unless a specific law was passed for this person, she would like all other women married in Luxembourg retain her birth (or maiden) name at and after marriage. Of course she is known informally as Tessy de Nassau, or Tessy de Nassau - Antony. But any official document has to have her name as Antony. Unless of course as I said a special law had been passed, but then that, as a clear exception to the rule, would have to be sourced appropriately.--Caranorn (talk) 19:16, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure, but wasn't there a Ducal decree promulgated recarding Tessy and de surname "de Nassau"? Demophon (talk) 20:24, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'll look it up (would be a grand-Ducal decree of course Réglement Grand-Ducal). I planned to look up the law on names anyhow to source my change. Of course if I end up being wrong (it could be, but I doubt it) we'll need an admin to move the page back over the redirect. I hadn't actually thought the rename would work as I expected a redirect to be at this name, so I just clicked to check before I'd ask for a move in a day or two...--Caranorn (talk) 22:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Her name is de Nassau. Tessy is a member of the Grand Ducal Family despite Louis giving up his rights. All members of the GD family are offically surnamed de Nassau via Grand Ducal Decree - including wives. Not to mention, that Grand Duke Henri has offically declared that she is Madame Tessy de Nassau after the marriage and this is not a mere curtesy. The laws governing the surname of an "ordinary" women do not apply to Tessy her surname is determined solely by the Grand Ducal Decree of 2/3/2006. Furthermore, you should actually look up the regulations in question before you alter the article not after. ~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.115.194.33 (talk) 11:07, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Princess Tessy of Luxembourg NCO rank? No![edit]

Note that the rank Caporal (Corporal) in the Luxembourg army is NOT a NCO rank--check "Le caporal de carrière" at armee dot lu--though it is an Enlisted Rank that under certain circumstances may lead to a NCO career track!

In the Luxembourg army, the career track of a caporal de carrière (a career corporal) is limited to the following four ranks: Caporal (Corporal, NATO code OR-3; i.e. Private First Class in the US Army, or Lance Corporal in the British Army), Caporal de Première Classe (Corporal 1st Class, NATO code OR-3; no equivalency in either US or British armies, considered Private First Class in the US Army, Lance Corporal in the British Army), Caporal-Chef (Master Corporal, NATO code OR-4; i.e. Specialist in the US Army, or Corporal in the British Army), and Premier Caporal-Chef (1st Master Corporal, also NATO code OR-4; i.e. Corporal in the US Army, again Corporal in the British Army). Furthermore the career of a "career corporal" is separate and below that of a sous-officiers de carrière (a career NCO) in the Luxembourg army, which NCO career starts at Sergent (Sergeant, NATO code OR-5) and can culminate with Adjudant-Major de l'Etat-Major de L'Armée, i.e. NATO code OR-9, the equivalent of both senior NCOs (i.e. Sergeant Major, Command Sergeant Major, and Sergeant Major of the Army) as well as Warrant Officers One through Five ranks in the US Army, or the rank of Master Warrant Officer Class One in the British Army.

The NCO career in Luxembourg encompasses seven ranks of which the first three can be considered Junior NCO ranks: Sergent (Sergeant, NATO code OR-5; i.e. Sergeant in the US Army, Sergeant in the British Army ); Premier Sergent (1st Sergeant, NATO code OR-6; i.e. Staff Sergeant in the US Army, Sergeant in the British Army), and Sergent-Chef (Master Sergeant, NATO code OR-7; i.e. Sergeant First Class in the US Army, Staff Sergeant and Colour Sergeant in the British army). These ranks are followed by four Senior NCO ranks, which ranks generally fulfill the function of Warrant Officers in the US and British armies: Adjudant (NATO code OR-8, which equals both Master Sergeant and First Sergeant, as well as the function of Warrant Officer One in the US Army; Sergeant Major, Regimental Quartermaster Sergeant, and Warrant Officer Class Two in the British Army), Adjudant-Chef (NATO code OR-9, which equals Sergeant Major, Command Sergeant Major, and Sergeant Major of the Army, as well as the functions of Chief Warrant Officer Two and Chief Warrant Officer Three in the US Army; Conductor, Royal Artillery Sergeant Major, Academy Sergeant Major, Garrison Sergeant Major, Master Warrant Officer Class One in the British Army), followed by Adjudant-Major and Adjudant-Major de l'Etat-Major de L'Armée (also NATO code OR-9, which also equals Sergeant Major, Command Sergeant Major, and Sergeant Major of the Army, as well as the functions of Chief Warrant Officer Four and Chief Warrant Officer Five in the US Army; Conductor, Royal Artillery Sergeant Major, Academy Sergeant Major, Garrison Sergeant Major, et cetera, all Master Warrant Officer Class One in the British Army).

Tessy appears not to have fulfilled the educational prerequisite for a NCO career, and she did not serve long enough to even be considered to fulfill certain conditions, including her educational level, to accede to a NCO career in the Luxembourg army. The reference to her being a "Corporal Drivers Permis B" simply indicates that she obtained the rank of Corporal (i.e. a Private First Class in the US Army, or Lance Corporal in the British Army), and that she obtained her driver's license during her military service, which driver's license is limited to driving vehicles up to 3500 kg (i.e. slightly under US short ton 3.86, or slightly under UK long ton 3.45), that she may drive a car or van transporting at most 9 people (seated, including herself), and that such vehicle may tow a trailer, as long as such trailer does not supersede 750 kg (i.e. slightly under US short ton 0.827, and slightly over UK long ton 0.738), which weight must be included in the limit of 3500 kg mentioned before.

Btw, the article is replete with other embellishments--whether (willful?) errors, omissions, and obfuscations--and as well.

Hadan 17:10, 10 November 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hadan (talk • contribs)

Photograph[edit]

The photo of Princess Tessy will be/is 7 years old of September 29, 2013, which seems rather old to me. Does anyone have an acceptable, newer photo of her that can be used legally? I checked the Commons photo lists, but there are no other photos of her available there. Nor is there a recent one for Prince Louis. Metheglyn (talk) 06:04, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Princess no more[edit]

As confirmed by the grand-ducal court, Tessy no longer carries the title or styles of a Princess. This entry should be renamed 'Tessy Antony' - her maiden name she has reverted to -, in line with entries about other previous royal spouses, such as Alexandra of Denmark, whose entry is correctly titled 'Alexandra, Countess of Frederiksborg' and not 'Princess Alexandra of Denmark', or Spain's 'Jaime de Marichalar', whose entry doesn't read 'Jaime, Duke of Lugo'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marser11 (talk • contribs) 12:15, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Articles 1 and 4 of the 1995 Grand Ducal Decree (as amended) are clear: "Article 1. In the public and private acts which concern them, the Princes and Princesses born in the first degree of descent from the Sovereign shall bear the style of 'Royal Highness' before their given name and the surname '(de) Nassau' and shall bear the title of 'Prince or Princess of Luxembourg' following their given and surnames. Children of the heir presumptive shall be designated in the same manner... Article 4. In the event of separation of bed and board, of divorce or remarriage after spousal death, the titles enjoyed by consorts of the Princes of Our House in accordance with the present decree shall be lost forthwith."
(Article 1er. Dans les actes publics et privés qui les concernent, les Princes et Princesses issus de la descendance au premier degré du Soverain portent le titre d'Altesse Royale avant leurs prénoms et nom de famille "Nassau" et le titre de Prince ou Princesse de Luxembourg à la suite de leurs prénoms et du nom de famille. Les descendants de l'héritier présomptif de la Couronne sont qualifiés de la même manière. Article 4. En cas de séparation de corps des épous, en cas de divorce, en cas de remariage après décès, les titres conférés aux conjoints des Princes de Notre Maison en vertu du présent arrêté se perdent de plein droit.)

Still a princess??[edit]

Tessy has just said on her Instagram does she still has her titles, and that "that won't change for a while. You will be informed properly if and when that happens." Should her page be changed back to Princess Tessy of Luxembourg? -comment added by Tangyanzixuan on 29 September 2017

Their divorce is not finalized yet. They waited judgement by legal court. After divorce, Tessy may will lost her title, but isn't it now. Refer to divorce of Charles, prince of Wales and Diana, princess of Wales, Diana had her titles and style of HRH the princess of Wales after announcement of their divorce until legal finish of the divorce. So I think Tessy is a princess still now. 갓나히 on 16 October 2017

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name[edit]

Why is the article entitled Tessy Antony de Nassau and she is continually referred to as Antony de Nassau? Not only is she divorced from her first husband, the prince, but she's remarried. Why would she still be referred to here with the "de Nassau" "last name?" 76.202.192.102 (talk) 21:45, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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