Talk:The Americans/GA1
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Nominator: Ktkvtsh (talk · contribs) 19:23, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: Ganesha811 (talk · contribs) 13:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Hi! I'll be reviewing this article using the template below. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask them here. —Ganesha811 (talk) 13:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Ktkvtsh, feel free to make changes and respond to issues as I continue to review the article, no need to wait until I'm finished with a full review. —Ganesha811 (talk) 22:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
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1. Well-written: | ||
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. | ||
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. |
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2. Verifiable with no original research: | ||
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. |
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2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). |
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2c. it contains no original research. |
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2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. |
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3. Broad in its coverage: | ||
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. |
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3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). |
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4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. | ||
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. |
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6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio: | ||
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. |
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6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. |
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7. Overall assessment. |
Comment: For images, would images of some of the actors under the cast and characters section be appropriate for 6b? If so, I can go ahead and do that. Ktkvtsh (talk) 19:48, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I think that would work well. —Ganesha811 (talk) 23:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
2b
[edit]@Ganesha811 I am working on fixing issues you mention in 2b. Will you be able to use my detailed edit summaries on the article to see what is done or should I mention it all here? Ktkvtsh (talk) 00:37, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- Edit summaries are fine, you can also come back here and just say "all done" or "all done except this one where I disagree with you" etc etc. It's a flexible process. —Ganesha811 (talk) 02:29, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- You can also reply directly within the table, or cross off items as you address them, whatever works best for you. —Ganesha811 (talk) 02:29, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
Collider reliable?
[edit]While Collider is mostly opinionated in various articles, the article used for The Americans is just about entirely interview and gives full question and answer quotes. While not every article from Collider could be used as a reliable source on Wikipedia, I believe this specific article can. Ktkvtsh (talk) 00:41, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds fine, thanks. —Ganesha811 (talk) 14:31, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
6b Images
[edit]Multiple images have been added. Please let me know if it is not enough or too many. Ktkvtsh (talk) 01:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- The number is fine but I would make them smaller and combine them into one or two multiple image templates. —Ganesha811 (talk) 14:31, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
TVShowsonDVD reliable?
[edit]Yes, I believe TVShowsonDVD.com is reliable here and gives accurate information regarding the show being released on DVD. Ktkvtsh (talk) 01:16, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- Could you expand on this? Why is it reliable per Wikipedia's standards? Thanks. —Ganesha811 (talk) 14:28, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- I believe TVShowsOnDVD.com is a reliable source per Wikipedia standards because it was well-regarded for its accurate and comprehensive reporting on television series releases on DVD and Blu-ray. The site operated with strong industry connections and was even affiliated with TV Guide from 2007 until it ceased operations in 2018, making its historical content a trustworthy reference for information up to that date. Ktkvtsh (talk) 20:58, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, sounds fair! Thanks for explaining. —Ganesha811 (talk) 21:09, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- I believe TVShowsOnDVD.com is a reliable source per Wikipedia standards because it was well-regarded for its accurate and comprehensive reporting on television series releases on DVD and Blu-ray. The site operated with strong industry connections and was even affiliated with TV Guide from 2007 until it ceased operations in 2018, making its historical content a trustworthy reference for information up to that date. Ktkvtsh (talk) 20:58, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
2b Tweets
[edit]Removed two tweets. They statements were both double sourced so removing the tweets won't leave them unsourced. Ktkvtsh (talk) 01:22, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
2d
[edit]I rephrased the portion mentioned here. Ktkvtsh (talk) 01:39, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
TV Fanatic reliable?
[edit]I think that TV Fanatic can be seen as reliable here as the source is a word for word interview. I feel that this is the same case as with Collider. Ktkvtsh (talk) 20:33, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, that's acceptable. —Ganesha811 (talk) 21:10, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
DVD release dates
[edit]I admit I am not entirely sure about what would be reliable for dvd release dates. I found this site here. I wanted to say Amazon is reliable, but I see now that the dates on the source and the date in the article don't match.
The entire home release section is sourced by Amazon or Bluray. Do you recommend I remove the entire section or would dvdreleasedates.com work? Ktkvtsh (talk) 20:40, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'd recommend removing it for now. If there are reliable secondary sources that mention the show came out on DVD, that could be mentioned in a general way. In the end it's not the most important detail. —Ganesha811 (talk) 21:11, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
3b (reception)
[edit]@Ktkvtsh: As someone who has been editing this article since its inception (over a decade), I find your trim of the reception section to be absurd; you turned a 2000+ word section into literally just over 100 words. You deleted roughly 70 references from reliable sources and completely eliminated the accolades section, and left the reception section with just 4 references. The series spanned 6 seasons and 75 episodes, its reception section shouldn't just be 100 words. The GA reviewer wrote the section is "slightly overdetailed" and that could it be a "slightly shorter section". The original version of the section could be trimmed, but what you did was beyond overkill and detrimental to the article. Drovethrughosts (talk) 14:46, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Drovethrughosts I will undo my edit. Can you work on trimming it down? My apologies. Ktkvtsh (talk) 14:48, 4 November 2024 (UTC)