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Klein, Joe (September 2, 1985). "The Real Star of Dynasty". New York. pp. 32–39. Retrieved June 1, 2017 – via Google Books.
"The new television season: A few hits and mostly misses". United Press International – via upi.com.
"The Colbys". TVSeriesFinale. November 12, 2007.
Mavis, Paul (May 28, 2015). "The Colbys: The Complete Series". DVD Talk. Retrieved December 5, 2019.
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The Colbys: TV Academy interview with Aaron Spelling

Original research[edit]

I have removed the following unsourced criticism as OR:

Although much hyped during 1985, The Colbys was ultimately a ratings disaster. It was considered to be too close a copy of its parent programme, Dynasty, yet managed to be even more over the top. Expectations of it being to Dynasty what Knots Landing was to Dallas (i.e. - a significantly different series that lasted for 14 years, rather than a carbon copy) were short-lived, and The Colbys was cancelled after only two seasons.

It is certainly true but needs sources. TAnthony 01:49, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think it might have been better for you to use the "citation needed" tool rather than deleting the paragraph, TAnthony...especially since you agree with what had been written yourself. I have added a source for the ratings of each season, and I have also added a critical citation to the "Directory of Primetime TV Shows" book which refers to the general criticism of the series. I don't think it would be necessary to add further criticism sources as anybody who has seen the series can see it is a mere clone of Dynasty, right down to the opening credits.

I didn't exactly delete the paragraph, I moved it here, which is more than most editors would do. But honestly, I've tagged similar comments in the Dynasty and Falcon Crest articles that never got sourced and were eventually deleted, and as it was added by an IP user I had the feeling it would never be referenced either. But I'm very glad you've done so.

That said, I do want to make sure you understand the nature of original research; the opinions that you and I may have, like that the show sucked, was a poorly-constructed clone and was cancelled for those reasons, cannot be added on our word alone. Yes, we can perhaps note that the The Colbys was similar to Dynasty in many ways, but we can't call it a clone, we can't comment on its quality and we can't come to conclusions about what made it fail. All you can do is show the ratings and quote books and articles. Surely there's a review out there from a reliable mainstream source that says it for us. TAnthony 17:55, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Yes, I can fully understand the need to have information verified, but unless it was something that was libellous or grossly inaccurate then I think it might be better to leave it on the main page with a "citation needed" tag next to it. That way, people who read the page will automatically know not to take it as the gospel truth, but also (and more importantly) it encourages everyone who reads the page to add the appropriate citations. By moving it to the talk page, not as many people would read it and therefore go looking for verification of the info. Ultimately, I managed to find relevant sources myself, but it took quite some digging. The article is looking okay now though I think, and your most recent edits have made it read a little easier (now if you can just keep that fool 'italianlover' off the Falcon Crest page, that might start shaping up as well!) MassassiUK 01:55, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Editing Note[edit]

I apologize, I made a minor edit but didn't describe it. All I did was switch to the American English spelling of program (versus "programme," as it was) since this was an American show and the rest of the writing (for example, use of the words "series" and "season") uses American English terms. Bluela 10:07, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To avoid the issue altogether, I've changed the word to "series". 212.139.120.40 18:06, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Miles and Jeff brothers?[edit]

"Miles (who refers to Jeff as his half-brother, leading to the assumption that Jason was his and Monica's father after all)..."

I don´t see any prove in that Jason is Miles real father. Of course Miles looks on Jason as his father because he raised him.93.128.81.7 (talk) 18:44, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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One retired actress[edit]

Stanwyck retired in 1986 after her final television role. 2607:FEA8:51F:A100:5DB2:C68E:5F89:DC42 (talk) 13:40, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]