Talk:The Dark Side of the Moon/GA2

GA Review[edit]

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Hello, editors. I will be reviewing this article for GA status, and I should have the checklist, analysis, and verdict posted sometime this weekend. Tim meh ! 21:27, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Checklist and analysis[edit]

GA review (see here for criteria)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS):
Although the article does meet the MoS now, it was a good ways from it when I first read it. However, I did fix all the MoS problems I could find, and it complies now.
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
There are a lot of sources, and as GrahamColm notes, the citations are accurate. They are also to reliable sources, which is good.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
I am not ignoring Kim's Broken Down Rocket's concerns, but it seems the musical style and many aspects of it are already covered in the recording section, resulting in no real need for a separate musical style section to pass GA review, although the article could be better if it had one.
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
I do see negativity and several viewpoints expressed in the reception section, and there are a variety of sources. Harris is used a bunch of times, but I see that enough other books are used as well as online sources. If the article were being reviewed for FA status, there would likely have to be a bit more of a variety in sources.
It is stable.
No edit wars etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
I suppose any audio samples would be included under this section. Kim's Broken Down Rocket did claim there are no audio samples, but I did see two of them. That is plenty for an album article.
Overall:
Pass/Fail:
Everything seems to be in check with regards to the GA criteria, after several minor fixes by me. So, I'm passing this article for GA status. I did take into account Kim's Broken Down Rocket's concerns. However, the article is not being reviewed for FA status, and the criteria are not as stringent and demanding of the article. Of course, if the editors wish to elevate it to FA status, they will need to take into account my concerns, as well as some of those of Kim's Broken Down Rocket. Tim meh ! 23:51, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Response[edit]

Hi Timmeh. I don't plan to take it to FA just yet as I have a number of other things to do, but in fairness to Kim's Broken... I did place 2 audio samples into the article while you were reviewing. Thank you for a speedy review though and I'll definitely bear in mind both yours and Kim's comments when I decide to work on it more - they're both entirely valid criticism. PS Kim - the making of DVD is already in the article ;) Parrot of Doom (talk) 08:14, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Other comments[edit]

Comments from GrahamColm (talk · contribs):

I am saddened that another editor has beaten me to this GA review, but here's my two pennies worth. I have been re-reading John Harris' The Dark Side of the Moon recently and I am impressed with the article and the excellent use to which this source has been put—I have checked many of the citations and they are accurate. I thought I knew everything that was to be known about this album, but apparently not. Very interesting - thanks. Graham Colm ^Talk 15:34, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Kim's Broken Down Rocket (talk · contribs):

IMHO the article relies too much on one source (Harris), thus even borderline violating WP:NPOV, while omitting other essential books and documentaries almost completely (Mark Blake, Nicholas Schaffner, George A. Reisch, Carruthers/Vance, MacDonald, Fitch, Mabbett, Jones, Shea and of course Nick Mason as well as some DVDs: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]). It is hardly using any contemporary sources showing its initial impact in the 70ies. Additionally, the article lacks any analysis of the actual music, not to mention score examples or audio samples. 김 위원장의 브로큰 엎드려 로켓 (talk) 21:53, 17 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]