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Badly written statement about only 500 of 70,000 prisoners remaining[edit]

"Of the original 70,000 prisoners, only about 500 remained. They were subjected to harsh treatment by the Japanese and many were stricken with malaria."

This is almost certainly baddly written and/or false. The 70,000 seems to be the number of soldiers who were in the Bataan Death March (the Wikipedia main article gives that number as 75,000. Not all of those prisoners were in the camp in question. Thus the 70,000 figure is misleading since there where survivors in other locations such as Japan. (Of course it was still very bad.) I don't think the error was part of the movie either. Anyone want to rephrase? MichaelSH 04:17, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the 70,000. Does anybody know the number of deaths in the camp?--Patrick 12:47, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's better to say that "Of the original 70,000 prisoners, only about 500 remained in the camp, while the rest were scattered throughout the Pacific such as work camps in Japan." I don't think the original was badly written or even false. Just more should have been added. The current phrase of only "500 were still alive" is even more misleading. --† Ðy§ep§ion † ^{Speak your mind} 16:19, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. That 500 are still alive is only meaningful if one knows how many people actually died there. I changed it to "At the time of the raid the camp held 500 prisoners." That is neutral and does not imply anything. MichaelSH 22:17, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well the movie showed that at least 13 POWs died while the raid was being planned. Everyone else appeared to have made it out. How many actually died at the camp before they were liberated? Secondly, we need to add the citation where the critics claimed we "misportrayed" the Japanese captors. They did brutally mistreat the POWs, it's been documented before. Plus, the historical facts contradict the assertions the critics stated.--TrevelyanL85A2 22:05, 20 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In an interview on the Today show, Joseph Fiennes said the camp had held about 12,000 prisoners and that the survival rate was less than 1 in 4. Oddmountain 02:59, 11 April 2007 (UTC)oddmountain[reply]

This Article is Off Topic[edit]

This article is more of a -- well deserved -- historical condemnation of the Japanese Empire than a description of the film. Most of this material really belongs elsewhere. This is a film review.

It's an encyclopedia article about a movie, not a review. For some odd reason, most of the article seems to be about the reviews it received, though...

Fair use rationale for Image:Great raid.jpg[edit]

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Rationale added--Spitfire (talk) 16:56, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Captain Eduardo Joson and actor Richard "Ebong" Joson: related?[edit]

Anyone know if Captain Eduardo Joson (later Governor of Nueva Ecija Province) is related to Ebong Joson, the actor who played him in this movie?PhantomWSO (talk) 20:19, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Richard (Ebong) Joson is the grandson of Captain Eduardo Joson. Source: http://www.pilipino-express.com/history-a-culture/in-other-words/403-great-raid-john-dahl.html PlymouthPinoy08 (talk) 11:31, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

External Links[edit]

External Links 1 is damaged — Preceding unsigned comment added by KarCet (talk • contribs) 14:17, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]