Talk:The Road Goes Ever On/Archive 1

Archive 1

Splitting this page

Currently, this page has two separate sections: The Road Goes Ever On (song) and The Road Goes Ever On (sheet music and recording).

I just looked through the 51 pages that link to this page; all of them are pointing to the latter. Moreover, the Middle Earth Portal template links to this page, clearly intending the latter as well.

So I am going to split this page. The Road Goes Ever On (song) will become its own page. The material about the song cycle (including the sheet music and recording) will be named simply The Road Goes Ever On. Lawrence King 07:41, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

William Elvin edition

I have this LP. Would there be a way to make clips available to Wikipedia readers? Would that be helpful? Soltera 15:20, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Tolkien speaking??

We say: This record also includes Tolkien himself reading the Sindarin prayer "A Elbereth Gilthoniel," in addition to the musical version of this prayer by Swann and Elvin.

Is this true? I don't have the LP, but some years ago I did tape a radio broadcast of it. I also recorded the introduction by the presenter John Cargher, who made no mention of Tolkein himself playing any part in the recording. I've just re-listened to the tape and the prayer does sound very much like Elvin's voice. -- JackofOz 01:32, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Also, there's nothing on Swann's website about this, or here, or anywhere else on the web I've been able to find. I do believe this is an error, so I'm going to be bold and change it. -- JackofOz 01:39, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I am 99% sure that it is true. However, since I haven't had the LP for two decades now, and the only thing I have now is the CD (which does not have Tolkien speaking), I am unsure if I should restore the sentence. And because Wikipedia has become infected with an absurd level of WP:V in the past year (one reason I don't edit much anymore; W. once drew from the collected knowledge of thousands of people, now it is an unpaid research project), I probably shouldn't add the claim back in without sources. — Lawrence King ^(talk) 07:30, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Update: The LP jacket is shown here. If you read the print on it (blurry but still legible) you will see that it reads as follows:

Poems and Songs of Middle Earth — Poems in English and Elvish from the Lord of the Rings and The Adventures of Tom Bombadil read by J.R.R. Tolkien — The Road Goes Ever On, sung by William Elvin with Donald Swann, the composer, at the piano.

On the one hand, this clearly indicates that Tolkien himself is recorded on this LP. On the other hand, this seems to imply that Tolkien must be reading more than just A Elbereth Gilthoniel! So I think we should not restore that sentence until we find out exactly what Tolkien did record on this album. — Lawrence King ^(talk) 07:41, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Update: I found the full data online, and have added it (with references) to the page. Until some editing fanatic deletes this (accusing me of original research -- yeah, like there are secondary sources that would know this stuff!), here it is. — Lawrence King ^(talk) 07:56, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Plainchant

The entry says that Namarie has "some affinities to plainchant." I heard on the radio a plainchant from the 13th or 14th century, at the time some years ago when this enjoyed some popularity again, which was the exact tune of Namarie. Tolkien liked this sort of music, and was not attempting to write a song, only to set a poem, so I wasn't that surprised. I can't give any references beyond this mere recollection, but basically, he used a traditional plainchant tune. 13 February 2015 212.159.59.41 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 10:10, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 13:52, 9 November 2007 (UTC)