Talk:The Sinking of the Lusitania

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that cartoonist Winsor McCay (pictured) created comic strips and animation about explosive sneezes and exploding mosquitoes, the dreams of children and of adults, a dancing dinosaur, and the World War I torpedoing of the RMS Lusitania?

DYK nomination[edit]

More refs[edit]

  • Telotte, J.P. (2010). Animating Space: From Mickey to WALL-E. University Press of Kentucky. pp. 31–. ISBN 978-0-8131-3979-1.
  • Thomas, Maureen; Penz, François, eds. (2003). "Animation, Art and Digitality: From Termite Terrace to Motion Painting". Architectures of Illusion: From Motion Pictures to Navigable Interactive Environments. Intellect Books. pp. 1–50. ISBN 978-1-84150-045-4.
  • Earl Hurd patented cels
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Film length?[edit]

The article says that the film is twelve minutes long, but the embedded video is 9:37. Was the film perhaps damaged over the years? Calmansi (talk) 15:26, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Now how can this happen?[edit]

Moving Picture World for May 11, 1918 claims "Winsor MacKay's 'The Sinking of the Lusitania'" had been recently shown at the Strand, where "A soldier's quartet rendered patriotic songs and the Symphony Orchestra played 'Pomp and Circumstance.'" How is this possible if the film was not released until July 20 (according to Canemaker), or August 15 (according to Theisen)? Curly Turkey (gobble) 13:53, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your link goes to the wrong volume. This is the right link [2]. SpinningSpark 15:44, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Curly Turkey (gobble) 21:53, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

BOY I LOVE PROPAGANDA[edit]

One of the great tragedies of a western/english speaking education is America and her allies in WW1 are portrayed as the "heroes and saviors" and that Imperial Germany was equivalent to, if not directly linked, to Nazi Germany.

Of course, neither of these are true. Sadly this article would have you believe the above opinion to be true. This is because this article is neither of good quality nor deserving of the "featured" status. Is is poorly written, biased, and only half-true.

Throughout the article words like "tragedy" are used to portray the event as the evil krauts killing a ship full or orphans or something. In reality, the ship was packed with millions of rounds of munitions intended for Britain, and was specifically loaded into the Lusitania to protect the stores from reaching their destination.

Winston Churchill himself personally instructed as many "neutral" or "civilian" ships as possible to carry arms, because when the Germans sank them Britain would be able to claim it was a "massacre" and not a simple event in a war.

In short, this article is a propaganda article about a propaganda article and I hope to fix that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.129.89.209 (talk) 00:49, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Boy, you sure do love propaganda, and you sure saw through my veiled attempts to make this an "All Germans Are Evil Nazis" article. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 01:06, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's not actually about the incident, it's about the film about the incident. (Which happens to take this particular point of view.) Brutannica (talk) 04:14, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Addressed to the first responce: Your sarcasm and aloof smugness is quite helpful and I hope you'll continue to use it.

Addressed to the second: Of course, but that must be acknowledged. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.129.89.209 (talk) 04:34, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It is—very, very, very explicitly. Notice how it's described as "a work of propaganda"? In the second sentence of the whole freaking article?!? But of course we can't describe the deaths of 1200 civilians as a "tragedy", because that could be nothing more than politically motivated Kraut-bashing. Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 05:44, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]