Talk:The Spread of the Eagle

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International success[edit]

This needs a WP:RS to be included in this article. First, the statement at the AoK article was unsourced. It also stated North America but it would only have aired in Canada at that time. That leads to the fact that BBC TV programmes of that era rarely aired in countries other than those of the commonwealth. For example the AoK did not air in the US until the 1980's. The claim that "international success" lead to the creation of this series is an overstatement per WP:UNDUE. If sourcing can be found that the success within the areas that BBC programmes reached at the time lead to the creation of this show then that would help the article. Otherwise please do not overstate the case. MarnetteD|Talk 18:12, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake so a partial strike of item in the post. The AoK article info is about a 1961 airing in the US. One country does not equal "international success" and there is no indication there that this series was an outcome of that one. MarnetteD|Talk 18:16, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That "one country" in this case happens to be the USA... That makes it a slightly more impressive breakthrough then, say, Luxemburg. I'd be very surprised if it didn't travel through most of the Commonwealth too, must look this up later. (The series also went to Germany and Holland and probably others in 1961-2 but that was somewhat irrelevant on the English page.) WP:FIXTHEPROBLEM If you're not even sure it's wrong, why insist on deleting it? A reference at the summary seems a bit overdone especially if it is not really on topic. But add it if you must: https://current.org/1998/12/an-age-of-kings-an-import-becomes-public-tvs-first-hit/ I remember you from similar unconstructive deleting (instead of fixing) on the blackadder board - and on both occasions there you were proved wrong, by the way. Spiny Norman (talk) 18:29, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I have adapted the section to match the info available. Your memory is inaccurate since all I asked then (and now) is for you to provide WP:RSing per WP:BURDEN. I have not been "proved wrong" in supporting those policies. MarnetteD|Talk 18:39, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Odd that you would quote "fix the problem" and then reverse the edit that does that. It should also be noted that sourcing that the show aired in other countries is one thing but it will need to be followed up with other sourcing showing that it was successful in those countries. MarnetteD|Talk 18:52, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You did the same as you did then, delete without any attempt to find a reference yourself. Alright, since you insist: You said a blackadder extra did not exist which was (and still is) hiding in plain sight on youtube and made NO attempt to do anything but delete - which is not at all the preferred solution of the guideline you like to flaunt. Later you insisted that one blackadder series didn't have lyrics, OK, on that occasion you did not actually play your silly burden of proof game, but still, one minute on google would have saved me hours of arguing with someone whom I do not respect. Spiny Norman (talk) 20:43, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No, there is no single source that says "this series was succesfull in these countries". You put the bar really high there. It's just one phrase. One might argue that the fact is was shown on the continent, the commonwealth, and the USA should count for something. Why don't you search some online newspapers yourself for a change, instead of wearing down your keyboard's poor abused delete button. Spiny Norman (talk) 20:43, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sigh sigh sigh WP:BURDEN is a policy not a game. WP:SYNTH is a policy as well. One more policy that you seem to be unaware of is WP:PERSONAL. BTW no one uses a delete button when editing. MarnetteD|Talk 21:25, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If you insist on removing whatever isn't 100% referenced instead of any of the other, preferable options, then that is not a personal remark. Please stop waving with rules that don't apply. WP:COMMON Spiny Norman (talk) 23:12, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You have hurled numerous personal attacks. Please stop ignoring the rules that apply. MarnetteD|Talk 23:22, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]