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Comments[edit]

Is Thiepval covered by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission? If so it could be added to this category. I was quite surprised not to see it there.

Soarhead77 21:16, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Having done some research I find that it is, so I've added this category.

Soarhead77 21:01, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing on the Ulstermen who died in Thiepval Wood? 86.40.211.212 (talk) 15:13, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Correction needed?[edit]

In the paragraph section headed 'Anglo-French memorial', I notice it says the British Commonwealth graves are rectangular and made of white stone. I suspect this inaccurate as the burials are in earthen graves. Should this be rephrased as:

the British Commonwealth graves are rectangular and the headstones made of white stone, OR
the British Commonwealth graves are marked by headstones that are rectangular and made of white stone?

Cloptonson (talk) 21:01, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

During World War II[edit]

I found some cool anecdotes about this memorial's liberation during World War II: http://greatwarphotos.com/2012/10/25/battlefields-in-ww2-thiepval-memorial-liberated-1944/

Does any of this fall as citable work for Wikipedia? Can any of the pictures be used? I've emailed the author with a link to this page; hopefully he will weigh in as well.

--greenmoss (talk) 03:40, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

CE[edit]

Tidied citations as one had red on.Keith-264 (talk) 21:00, 27 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Names of the sub-battles on the pillars[edit]

There are only 13 names of battles listed on the 16 pillars. I think the others should be Fromelles, Gommecourt and Serres (by compare the lists on the wikipedia page for the battle and The UK website. Can anybody comfirm this? Vauxhall Bridgefoot (talk) 10:16, 17 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I took photos of all 16 stone wreaths, see this category on Commons. I added 16 battles here, but someone obviously removed some of them. Comparing my edit back in 2010 with the current list what has been removed is the initial entry of "Somme 1916" (I can understand how that can be confusing) and the final two entries for Miraumont and Bapaume. OK, I found the edit that removed the last two, it was here in August 2011. And the 'Somme 1916' entry was removed here a bit earlier (July 2011). What would you suggest is best to do here, Vauxhall Bridgefoot? Carcharoth (talk) 16:28, 24 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

For the record:

Somme 1916 (image) [presumably the first day, but this could be covered by 'Battle of Albert', or simply a roundel for the whole campaign from July to November rather than a specific battle?]
Ancre Heights (image) [1 October – 11 November 1916]
Ancre (image) [13–18 November 1916]
Albert (image) [1–13 July 1916]
High Wood (image) [14 July – 15 September 1916]
Delville Wood (image) [14 July – 3 September 1916]
Morval (image) [25–28 September 1916]
Flers-Courcelette (image) [15–22 September 1916]
Pozieres Wood (image) [23 July – 3 September 1916]
Bazentin Ridge (image) [14–17 July 1916]
Thiepval Ridge (image) [26–28 September 1916]
Transloy Ridges (image) [1–18 October 1916]
Ginchy (image) [9 September 1916]
Guillemont (image) [3–6 September 1916]
Miraumont (image) [There is an 'Action of Miraumont', also known as the Battle of Boom Ravine, but that is 17–18 February 1917. There was also an action at Boom Ravine in the closing stages of the Battle of the Ancre. But given that the Thiepval Memorial covers the missing from July 1915 to February 1918, it is possible that the roundels cover more than just the Somme battles. This roundel might refer to Operation Alberich.]
Bapaume (image) [Again, here, this roundel may refer to either or both of the battles of Bapaume, I've gone and looked up the precise dates given by the CWGC, and it is those missing "who died in the Somme sector before 20 March 1918", so it is not absolutely clear why Bapaume is one of the roundels.]

I've added dates above and links to the images. I have no idea why this section of that website mentions Gommecourt and Serre. Fromelles was a major offensive, but has its own memorial (see V.C. Corner Australian Cemetery and Memorial). Carcharoth (talk) 16:35, 24 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Looking into this a bit more, I've tried to clarify this here. It should be possible to confirm this from an authoritative source, and I will try and do that. Carcharoth (talk) 17:29, 24 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like you are much better placed to have an opinion on this than me Carcharoth! Good job on the update, I think that clarifies it nicely. Wouldn't do to have three pillars missing, it would have made the whole monument wonky. Vauxhall Bridgefoot (talk) 13:19, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Inauguration[edit]

The Bibliothèque Nationale de France has a large variety of photos of the inauguration that might be useful. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.8% of all FPs} 09:28, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]