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Outdated ballot access map for RFK Jr. campaign[edit]

Hi,

I've noticed that the ballot access maps for RFK Jr.'s campaign are outdated. CA, HI, UT, MI and OK are correctly colored, while DE and NH aren't colored bright green, though they should be.

Thanks, David O. Johnson (talk) 22:38, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Reform Party of Florida has restored Ballot access. That party joined up with Alliance for 2020 and the Reform party and Alliance Party have nominated RFK Jr. Can we confirm whether or not the Florida branch is doing the same or not? Thecommander236 (talk) 03:44, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes the Reform Party of Florida nominated RFK. It's already sourced; see [1]. I'm going to go ahead and revert your latest edit to the article. David O. Johnson (talk) 03:58, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jill Stein has secured the Nomination for the Green Party[edit]

When someone gets the chance, update the page to include Jill Stein securing the Green Party nomination. Better source needed but her Campaign has said that they have a majority of the delegates. 2601:100:8680:2C10:A87:DAE3:AF61:6AE7 (talk) 02:47, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Presumptive
2601:100:8680:2C10:A87:DAE3:AF61:6AE7 (talk) 02:54, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
She has not been properly added into the infobox. This needs to be fixed. 2605:8D80:5E2:F2C:1DB0:1A01:E9EB:4F16 (talk) 16:48, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here is the "better source needed": https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jill-stein-makes-major-announcement-on-green-party-nomination-for-president/ar-BB1n5TjE A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 20:24, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
She is the presumptive nominee, not the nominee. It is debatable whether she belongs in the General election candidates section yet. However, if she does belong there, she certainly belongs in the Candidates with majority ballot access sub-section because write-in votes should contribute towards the 270 electoral vote eligibility. The sole purpose of the dividing line is to separate those who have the technical possibility of winning from those who don't. Her ballot eligibility including write-in access puts her over the line. Dhalsim2 (talk) 21:22, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Automatic write-in access shouldn't be considered, as it doesn't guarantee that write-in votes will be counted. Less than half of the states that gave automatic write-in access in 2020 reported a single individual write-in vote in official state counts, and others only reported write-in votes for some candidates. Vermont was really the only state that gave out complete write-in tallies. We simply have no way of knowing which states will count and how. Longestview (talk) 03:23, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's not quite true. Based on precedent over the last two presidential election cycles, we do know that certain states will report write-in votes, those being: AZ, CA, CT, DE, FL, GA, ID, IL, IN, KS, KY, MD, MA (from municipalities only), MI, MN, MO, NJ (from counties only), NY, OH, PA (from counties only), RI (by making raw data available only), TN, TX, UT, VT, WV, WI. Among those, the automatic states are NJ, PA, RI, VT. Among the states that don't regularly release write-in results, they typically have conditions under which they will release them, and these conditions typically revolve around the possibility of winning the election. Truthfully, the odds of any of these candidates winning the election are extremely slim, but if we're going to draw a line between those who have a theoretic possibility of winning and those that have no theoretic possibility of winning, then the line at least ought to reflect a true possibility and not just a likelihood. Dhalsim2 (talk) 18:31, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Randall Terry[edit]

The Nevada Constitution Party nominated Joel Skousen meaning that Randall Terry isn't technically on the ballot in Nevada according to Ballot Access. Can we get a confirmation on this and what other Constitution affiliates have chosen Skousen over Terry? Terry is running as an Independent in multiple states and hasn't been locked in by the CP affiliates. Thecommander236 (talk) 23:20, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a way to transclude a legend?[edit]

For RFK Jr., for example, the Third party and independent candidates for the 2024 United States presidential election#Candidates with partial ballot access section of this article and the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 2024 presidential campaign#Ballot access articles have to be updated separately. Is it possible to transclude the legend so that only one page has to be updated, with the transclusion updating the other article? David O. Johnson (talk) 16:36, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is. I've replaced the map legend on Kennedy's campaign page with a transclusion command. Longestview (talk) 20:00, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Appreciate it. David O. Johnson (talk) 20:19, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress[edit]

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Kennedy in Florida[edit]

Since the Reform Party in Florida nominated Kennedy, it bypasses the signature gathering process. [2], [3]. David O. Johnson (talk) 11:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note About Eligibility for Electoral Votes?[edit]

Should there be a note on the Kennedy line that his campaign is currently constitutionally ineligible to receive the electoral votes in California if they happen to win the state? When both the president and the vice president are from the same state, they can't win the electoral votes from that state. This would also apply to Cornell West's campaign, but he's not on the CA ballot. (The reason I'm asking is that the 54 electoral votes from California are currently being included in the "ballot access" count, but he can't legally win those votes so I don't understand why they would count.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:4808:2950:1100:4C12:CAB9:A292:9EA9 (talk) 16:37, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disregard -- upon further research, Kennedy is registered in NY, so I'm going to edit the page to reflect that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:4808:2950:1100:4DA:FD5D:2815:7D6F (talk) 20:53, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Hoefling running as independent?[edit]

Saw that Thomas Hoefling - who ran for president thrice before (2012, 2016, 2020) - has announced that he's running again as an independent.

Not sure if he's filed officially yet, but given his background, he's definitely worth a mention somewhere once he does file. MikeyX58 (talk) 00:28, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shiva Ayyadurai has access in Utah[edit]

https://vote.utah.gov/2024-candidate-filings/ Lukt64 (talk) 02:55, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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