Talk:Thomas Hanway Bigge

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The two Thomas Bigges[edit]

The business is quite convoluted.

I initially wanted to clarify who was the correspondent of John Tweddell (see John Tweddell#Traveller). The answer is apparently "not this one". [1] defines that Thomas Bigge as "formerly of Benton, Northumberland and now of Brompton Row, near London, [...] educated at Oxford". Diaries of James Losh vol.1 p.11, entry from 25 April 1812, "I had a letter announcing the death of his mother yesterday from Bigge". This can't be Thomas Hanway Bigge, whose mother Jane (nee Ord) died in 1806.[2] Thomas Bigge (b.1766) was son of Elizabeth (nee Rundell); there was an Elizabeth Bigge of Brompton Row who died in 1812.[3] The editor's note identifies Bigge as "T. Bigge, an old friend of Losh, now living in London", which is OK. But the index has this Bigge under "TH Bigge", which really isn't OK.

In other words the index is not to be trusted to sort out these two guys. Charles Matthews (talk) 18:36, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It is now plausible to me that:

Ritchie makes an incorrect identification of Thomas Hanway Bigge with the editor of The Oeconomist.
The birth date 1776 is perhaps wrong, though it fits in the sequence 1773, 1778, 1780 for the brothers. The other suggestion 1784 (Tattersfield reference) fits better with the reported age at death of 41; though not precisely.
John Thomas Bigge was the third brother, after Charles and William (died young).
Wahrman is correct in identifying the author "Thomas Bigge A.M" of the Considerations with the editor of The Oeconomist.
This Thomas Bigge is Thomas Bigge (1766–1851) (see at present Draft:Thomas Bigge (1766–1851).

In other words Thomas Hanway Bigge was still a minor when The Oeconomist was being edited; he took part in the Literary and Philosophical Society when he was around 20; and joined the bank in his early 20s. And he wasn't an obvious radical.

Now, sorting this all out with references is clearly another matter ... Charles Matthews (talk) 07:52, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there are references, and there now are three articles. Much has been moved from this one. T. H. Bigge was a Vice-President of the Literary and Philosophical Society in time, but the driving force in 1802 was the other one. Charles Matthews (talk) 20:16, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Bigge portraits[edit]

Of possible interest: two portraits of Thomas Bigge were painted by Andrew Morton RA, the Newcastle artist, in 1827 and 1839.[4] Not obvious where they are. Charles Matthews (talk) 06:33, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]