Talk:Thomas Highs

A fact from Thomas Highs appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 6 September 2006. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that inventor Thomas Highs was never credited for his invention of both the spinning jenny (pictured) and the water frame, mostly due to his lack of funding to patent the devices?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2006/September.

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Kay or Kays?[edit]

Article seems to switch between "Kay" and "Kays", and I'm wondering if that is indeed a different person or the author was having muscle memory problems after having to type "Highs" so much. I'm asking because I know there are at least two John Kays (s because of the plural, both are named John Kay) from this time period and we've had problems before with confusion between the two. Syrthiss 12:09, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The two John Kays were unrelated. The first, born in Bury, Lancashire, in 1704, patented the Flying Shuttle in 1733. It was an attachment that speeded up production from the handloom, and could be said to have kick-started the Industrial Revolution.

The second Kay was a clockmaker from Warrington - then in Lancashire - who collaborated with Thomas Highs, first on the Spinning Jenny and later on the roller-drafting machine that would eventually become Richard Arkwright's Warer Frame. The Throstle was a later, improved version of the Water Frame with a metal chassis instead of a wooden one.

The article on Highs is misleading and innacurate in places, and needs editing. Biographies of Highs, Arkwright and James Hargreaves can be found on my website, www.cottontimes.co.uk - Dougpeacock 11:50, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Questions[edit]

What's this "throstle" that gets mentioned? Melchoir 06:12, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I thought James Hargreaves invented the spinning Jenny? not High i thought he invented the spinning frame. - Knightousmaximous 02:08, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What's up with the "Almost certainly Heyes" thing at the top? It has a link to an outside website that is completely and utterly irrelevant. - 67.172.32.149 22:22, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvios- Mistruths and dodgy references.[edit]

Edward Baines 1835,p155 discussed and dismissed Highs claims in 1835, they seem to have been ressurrected for entertainment programme on BBC schools which is cited as a reliable source. Text has been cut and pasted from Doug Peacocks website- though not by him. The text is littered for requests for citations. I am commenting out most of it- and will attempt to reinstate bits when a reliable source has been found. ClemRutter (talk) 11:20, 5 June 2009 (UTC) Looked at new editors comments. The most import aspect about Highs appears to be the controversy and that needs to be documented- his claims were dismissed in 1835. --ClemRutter (talk) 00:56, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Drawing of Thomas Highs` Spinning Jenny[edit]

I cannot find the drawing in the History of the Cotton Manufacture in Great Britain as mentioned. Is there another source?--Techniker71 (talk) 10:36, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see it in the online version of the book either. Unfortunately the file was uploaded by an editor who has since retired from wikipedia. The image at http://www.cottontimes.co.uk/highs.htm gives the same source so I suspect it was taken from there, along with their source information. Richerman (talk) 16:56, 15 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I saw now the drawing on plate 6 in "Compendious history of the cotton-manufacture; with a disproval of the claim of Sir Richard Arkwright to the invention of its ingenious Machinery" by Richard Guest, Manchester 1823. It seems to bee the original Source. You will find the book by Google books free of charge. But I do not know if we can change the caption without causing troubles. If we can do it please change it.--Techniker71 (talk) 18:34, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]