Talk:Thurgood Marshall/Archive 3

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Discrepancy in number of cases argued/won

Under the section, "Chief Counsel for the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund," this article says "In total, Marshall won 29 out of the 32 cases he argued before the Supreme Court"

Later, under "Court of Appeals and Solicitor General," it says "As Solicitor General, he won 14 out of the 19 cases that he argued for the government".

Obviously, these two cannot be rectified, since if he lost 5 cases for the government, his win record would at best be 27/32. Both are [citation needed]

Most sources I've found support the former, including the NYTimes obituary: https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0702.html It also says that he argued 14 as a private citizen and 18 as SG.

But I did find one source saying he was 14 of 19 for the government, but it didn't seem the most reliable. [such as this site that gets a warning when you try to access it: http://chnm.gmu.edu/courses/122/hill/marshall.htm ] I can't find a list of all his cases he argued, so I can't say for sure one is right, though I suspect the 29/32 is right.

In any event, this discrepancy should be fixed, but since sources disagree I wanted to place it out here first. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.111.228.60 (talk) 00:13, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

The way I read it, he won 29 out of 32 cases he argued as Chief Counsel for the NAACP. He left that position and took a position as Solicitor General, where he won 14 out of 19 cases he argued in that position. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 21:33, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Rewrite

I've spent the last month or so rewriting Marshall's article, and I'd appreciate it if some talk-page watchers would take a look at my work: see User:Extraordinary Writ/Thurgood Marshall. It's not perfect, but I've tried my best to put together a fully sourced article that provides a more-or-less comprehensive overview of Marshall's life and work while remaining concise and readable for the million-some-odd people who view this page each year. I don't want to just move it into mainspace without getting the all-clear from folks on the talk page first, so I'd be eager to hear any and all feedback. Thanks in advance! Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:14, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Just wanted to mention this again: I'd be glad to consider any suggestions or concerns regarding my rewrite before I incorporate it into the mainspace article. If I don't hear anything, I'll just be bold and assume consensus, but I'll still be happy to listen to any feedback, at any point. Cheers, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:19, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Just noting for the record that I've moved my rewritten version into mainspace. Again, I'd still be more than happy to listen to any thoughts and comments that talk-page watchers might have—please feel free to let me know if there's anything I've overlooked. Cheers, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:16, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Excellent work! I've added an interesting quote by Rehnquist to the "Retirement, later life and death" section. Equilibrial (talk) 10:53, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Thurgood's Real Name

Thurgood marshal was born Thoroughgood Bruh138 (talk) 21:54, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

We already cover that. See the infobox and Note a. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 21:58, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Work with FBI and J. Edgar Hoover

Shouldn't Marshall's behind-the-scenes work for the FBI and J. Edgar Hoover (specifically to undermine civil rights activist T. R. M. Howard) be mentioned in this article, if only briefly? Source: https://www.newsweek.com/strangest-bedfellows-169718 173.88.246.138 (talk) 01:39, 13 April 2023 (UTC)