Talk:Tim Rogers (writer)

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Good articleTim Rogers (writer) has been listed as one of the Video games good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Good topic starTim Rogers (writer) is part of the Action Button Entertainment series, a good topic. This is identified as among the best series of articles produced by the Wikipedia community. If you can update or improve it, please do so.
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DateProcessResult
June 15, 2014Good article nomineeListed
September 14, 2014Good topic candidatePromoted
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on July 14, 2014.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Tim Rogers, originator of New Games Journalism and co-founder of Action Button Entertainment, applied his thoughts on Super Mario Brothers 3's "sticky friction" to his game design for Ziggurat and Videoball?
Current status: Good article

Gamasutra community post[edit]

Found this article ("Players Who Suit Social Games: Identifying, Analyzing, Expanding, and Progressing"), which builds on Rogers's piece, but it appears to be written by someone unreliable (non-staff). Thought I'd post it here for posterity. czar ♔ 05:24, 25 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Tezero (talk · contribs) 19:59, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, why not. I'll review this one.

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Comments as I'm going down:

  • Intro's kinda short. I'd prefer it to be about twice its length now; it's your choice whether to do this in one paragraph or two. As a minimum, I think one more sentence each about his journalism and Action Button is necessary for the intro to summarize the article.
  • That being said, I'm not sure it's necessary to go this in-depth about TNNS and 10 x 8, as they're both also covered in the Action Button article. If you can't find coverage about Rogers' role in their development, cut out a lot and link to the relevant sections in the Action Button page.
  • "personal and strong interest" - Is it just a strong personal interest, or is it a strong interest whose "personal" nature is somehow important here?
  • "Rogers is a video games journalist[4]" - Do you really need to cite anything there? I mean, most of the sources, likely including the next two, cover this.
  • "and his rock band is Large Prime Numbers" - Kind of weird phrasing. If you can't scrounge up any more information about his band, change this clause to something like "and he is a member of a rock band named Large Prime Numbers".
  • Explain a bit in the body text what New Games Journalism is. Optionally, you might also add a "See also" tag to Rogers' "Video games journalism" section or an independent "See also" header.
  • "considering that the Internet claims to hate [him]." - I see no evidence of this anywhere in the article. Given this fact, why highlight the quote so?
  • Cave Story definitely has a story; I'd change "realizing" to "feeling" or "perceiving". (MBTI reference not intended.)
  • Decide whether to italicize "ActionButton.net" and stick with it.
  • Sources all look reliable and, from what I've scanned, formatted fine.
  • I still don't understand why Wikipedia's so anal about living persons, but if you can't provide an image because of that, so be it. That being said, you might consider emailing him to ask for a picture you can license for use here.

Tezero (talk) 20:16, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Tezero, believe I've addressed everything—let me know what you think? I left the citation for "games journalist" because it isn't quite in the next two sources and because he has said at times that he doesn't think of himself as a journalist. About the pictures, it's the same story as the others—he promised me some and I'm waiting to hear back (E3 week). Thanks for the review czar ♔ 21:01, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine. Moving on:

  • "incoming alien freaks" - Neutrality? I wouldn't go any further than "incoming grotesque aliens".
  • I've separated TNNS and 10 x 8 into two sections; I didn't see any reason to clump them together. It had the same awkward ring as our former (proposed?) Nintendo + Sega taskforce.
  • "Rogers presented at the Indie Soapbox at GDC 2013" - Did he present the game there or something else? If the latter, what's this doing in that section?
  • Everything else looks good, so ping me when you're done. Tezero (talk) 23:23, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Tezero, ping czar ♔ 23:53, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You still never specified what Rogers was doing at the Indie Soapbox. The source doesn't say it, but I expect you could find another one... Anyway, whatever. I'll just pass this. Tezero (talk) 00:22, 15 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

New sources[edit]

czar 19:42, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Entry not appropriate for the wiki.[edit]

This article lacks citations for many claims and reads like a haigiography written by the subject of the post. Please remove. 64.66.220.27 (talk) 21:31, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The entire article is fully sourced and has always been. If you have a more specific claim or source to discuss, please raise it alongside your reliable source evidence. czar 00:07, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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