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The Lethes - Lima or Minho?

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Please correct the above paragraph because it's wrong: The fear of losing memories is written when it refers to Lima river, which is correct. The legend says that Romans called river "Lethes" (their mythical "river of oblivion") to nowadays Lima river. Having arrived at its margins in the region of Ponte de Lima the Romans saw a luxuriant vegetation which reminded them about the myth of "Lethes", thus causing them fear to cross it. It was then that Decimus Junius Brutus took the eagle's standard, crossed the river and called his soldiers by their names, proving he hadn't lost his memory (this was what Titus Livius wrote). There is controversy about the name the Romans called to Lima river, altough most people say they called it Limaeas (or something close). Even the people of that region where called Limici by Romans beacause they lived in a swamplike place in the upper river and called them that after the name of the the river. During 1st century Tiberius Caius Silius Italicus wrote about the 2nd Punic War and called Lethes to Lima, having some authors mentioned that he did it metaphorically, because many Romans prefered to stay there forgetting the muddy Tiber. User:Felissilvestris 05:08, 3 June 2007.

Hello Felissilvestris! Regarding your edit in the Timeline of Portuguese history (Lusitania and Gallaecia), thank you for your input, but please, when you want to had a comment or notice an incorrection, it is best to do it in the talk page, rather then in the article itself. Regarding the Lethes issue, it is true that Decimus Junius Brutus' legions did not want to cross the Lima fearing it was the Lethes, and that he did convince them to do so. They them proceded to the Minho river and the history repeated itself again, with the difference that this time they did not cross it. At least this is what I read in José Mattoso's book. So, I'm reverting you change (in fact I'm moving your commentary to the talk page and adding my own), and adding a reference to Decimus Junius Brutus' previous situation in the Lima. Thank you! The Ogre 13:45, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There was already a reference to the Lima:
  • 137 BC - The Roman legions reluctantly cross the Lima (Lethe) river, only after Decimus Junius Brutus crossed alone and called for them, thus proving he had not lost his memory.
  • 136 BC - Roman legions under Praetor Decimus Junius Brutus reach the Minho river, but do not cross it for fear of losing their memories.
The Ogre 13:51, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Added some more details, though. The Ogre 13:54, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi OGRE. I apologize to have "intruded" your article. I wrote there i just wanted to correct and add minor things, and when i am wrong i will thank people who correct me. I try to be fair and objective, but there are always someone who knows another thing. That's the way we evolve. I didn't want to edit your page. I just wanted to add some notes in case they should be helpfull for you. I am new in what comes to use Wikipedia, so i will try to read the "manual" to avoid doing so many errors of this kind. I am portuguese, my name is Vitor. I hope you correct my English... as well as my Portuguese. Who masters any language? Who didn't commit an error? I am not interested in "praising" Portugal or any other country nor ethnicity or anything else. It happens that if i know something about anything i am reading I like to contribute to such work as this. I mean: the goal and the means of Wikipedia are great! So the more people can help the better. And let's hope that this common effort will help us understand each others better and help make a better world (if there is enough time, because our pace of destruction is faasst!)- Felissilvestris 04/06/2007 1:10am

Hello Felissilvestris! The article is not mine! It belongs to the world and everyone is free to contribute. And you should contribute. And I do thank you for your notes. But you can edit the article itself in the proper manner. You should look into the links provided in the welcome message above, they will help you with your edits. Regarding Portugal you may want to check Wikipedia:WikiProject Portugal. By the way, I only saw this reply you wrote in your talk page by accident. Replies should be done in the articles' talk page or in the other editor's talk page. And for your signature you just need to type 4 tildes (~) and it will automatically be produced with the date. Again, welcome to Wikipedia. Enjoy and, remeber, be bold! The Ogre 13:23, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]