Talk:Timeline of the Philippine Revolution

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1897-1899[edit]

The Philippine revolution didn't end on November 1, 1897 with the constitution of Biak-na-Bato, or on December 15, 1897 with the Pact of Biak-na-Bato. After the Pact, Aguinaldo, heading the Hong Kong Junta, formed a revolutionary government in exile there.

The Philippine revolution didn't end with Aguinaldo's return to the Philippines on May 19, 1898, or with the Philippine Declaration of Independence on June 12, 1898, or with the formal establishment of the Dictatorial Government of the Philippines on June 18, 1897, or with the establishment of the Revolutionary Government of the Philippines on June 23, 1897, or with the proclamation of the First Philippine Republic on January 21, 1899, or with the Second Battle of Manila on February 4-5 1899. Perhaps it might be said to have ended with the formal declaration of war on the U.S. by the First Philippine Republic on June 2, 1899. There is a gap in this article over that period which needs to be filled in.

Besides the events mentioned above, the Battle of Alapan on May 28, 1898 probably ought to be mentioned in this timeline, along with a number of other significant battles currently summarized in the Philippine Revolution article as, "Imus and Bacoor in Cavite, Parañaque and Las Piñas in Morong, Macabebe, and San Fernando in Pampanga, as well as Laguna, Batangas, Bulacan, Nueva Ecija, Bataan, Tayabas (present-day Quezon), and the Camarines provinces, were liberated by the Filipinos. They were also able to capture the port of Dalahican in Cavite." and, probably, some battles and other events not mentioned in that quote or in that article.

I added the snippet I quoted above from the Philippine Revolution article to the Hong Kong Junta article today. I came to this article in the process of looking for some more details about the timeline, but struck out here. I note that some of the events I mentioned are listed at Timeline of the Philippine–American War#Prewar events, but the focus there is establishing context for that timeline It seems to me that the events mentioned there along with some others are properly a part of the Philippine Revolution, and ought to be mentioned in this timeline.

I'm in a rush today, trying to do too many things, or I would have tried to say that less stridently. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 17:49, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Claim of being the first republic in asia[edit]

[This edit, which charactised the Philippine Revolution as the uprising that gave birth to Asia's first republic in the first sentence of the lead section I've removed that mention as unsupported WP:wikipuffery.

I have seen that claim in a number of articles about the Philippines and I have seen a number of Philippine sources cited in support. I've never researched it, but I have on occasion wondered whether republican governments predating the establishment of one in the Philippines might have been proclaimed and/or established elsewhere in Asia. I looked at some WP articles, and ended up at the list of asian republics in the List of Republics article. I added an asian republic mentioned elsewhere in that article republic to that list and reproduce it here:

I noticed Republics in ancient India. Brill Archive. n the Further reading section of that list article It's previewable online but I have not dug into it..

This is probably not the best venue for a discussion about this but, offhand, I can't think of a better one.. It looks to me as if, at a minimum, unsupported assertions that the first republic in asia was established in the Philippines should be removed or supported, and supported assertions to that effect ought to be reexamined with WP:DUE in mind.

Discussion? Wtmitchell (updaed) Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 02:48, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, at least for the Philippines, the first "republic" was the Katipunan's Kakarong Republic that was established during the 1897 Battle of Kakarong de Sili in Pandi, Bulacan. With the definition of a "republic" that is a government that is not a monarchy, these examples that you cited may be earlier, but these Philippine governments led by the Katipunan had the ultimate aim of having elections to represent the people, which was supposedly what should be meant by that. Howard the Duck (talk) 23:48, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]