Talk:Tipuloidea

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Also a genus[edit]

There's also a genus Tipuloidea Wieland, 1925 listed in IRMNG, an extinct hemipteran. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jar354 (talk • contribs) 02:33, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 18 June 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

It was proposed in this section that Tipuloidea be renamed and moved to Crane fly.

result:
Procedural close. Redirects are ineligible to be current titles in move requests. Tipuloidea is a redirect that resulted from a page merge and its edit history is important to keep for its attributions. It appears that what editors are attempting would improve Wikipedia, so it is suggested that they discuss this further at Talk:Crane fly and build a consensus for how to move forward. Thanks and kudos to editors for your input; everyone stay healthy! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 18:49, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Tipuloidea → Crane fly – The term "crane fly" can include primitive crane flies (Tanyderidae), winter crane flies (Trichoceridae), phantom crane flies (Ptychopteridae), and true crane flies (Tipuloidea). There's a good explanation in the first paragraph here.

The Tipuloidea Wikipedia article is titled "Crane fly" rather than "Tipuloidea" or "True crane fly". This can be confusing because it does not include primitive crane flies, phantom crane flies, or winter crane flies.

I suggest moving the current "Crane fly" article to "Tipuloidea", with a shorter "Crane fly" article that includes a description and links to primitive, phantom, winter, and true crane flies.

This request would result in the exchange of the Crane fly article, which is currently about the superfamily Tipuloidea, with the Tipuloidea article, which is currently a redirect. The "Crane fly" article would then be converted from a redirect to an article that includes a description and links to primitive, phantom, winter, and true crane flies.

TOL discussion Bob Webster (talk) 03:12, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I really think "Crane fly" should be an article encompassing all members of "Tipulomorpha", a definition used by academic sources. [1] Honestly, primitive crane flies (Tanyderidae ) and phantom crane flies (Ptychopteridae) are not speciose and rare, and not very commonly encountered by people unlike other "crane flies", so I don't think this is likely to cause confusion. This is something easily handled by a disambiguation page or mentioned in the lead. Hemiauchenia (talk) 03:33, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

NHM defines "crane fly" to Tipuloidea: [2], stating about Ptychoteridae: A small group called false craneflies or phantom craneflies is sometimes grouped with craneflies, but they are quite distinctive. Hemiauchenia (talk) 03:38, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.