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Separate page[edit]

Why people fear to have a seperate page for thiyyar — Preceding unsigned comment added by HariNellatt (talk • contribs) 09:58, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Original research[edit]

This article still has pretty serious original research issues. For one thing, it is not clear that the cited sources refer to the same group: cited sources do not support the claim that the Tiyyar group is descended from the Thiyya dynasty. The citation provided for this claim ([1]) just says the Thiyya dialect (spoken by the Thiyya community), which neither identifies Tiyyar with Thiyya nor Thiyya people with the Thiyya dynasty. This is just one error, virtually every claim in the article takes similar liberties with sourcing. _signed,Rosguill ^talk 13:38, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article have lot of Major issues issues .[edit]

these article is mostly filled with issues - 1) Are thiyya and ezhavas are separate if so please split up the main page [Ezhava]] and provide the info. Also what is the actual name ? is it thiyya, teeyar ot thiyyar ? 2) Separate dialect called thiyya ? What is the source of this , that too it appears in the lead ? 3) Most of this are discussed in the main page what is the need of this low quality duplicate copy $)Majority of the sources are recent news articles ? will this be given more weightage to raj era sources Updated in the main page ? 6) Also i see that multiple times this page was redirected and somehow recently somone removed the redirect. If both are different kindly split up the main page [Ezhava]] as many articles consider both as synonymous and this is creating heavy confudsion. 7) regarding population , where is the source ? , the main page says ezhavas are 8 million so is this true or false ? Lisa121996 (talk) 05:54, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I seriously think the redirect need to be there before the entire issue of the article is not adressed. In addition to that WP:RAJ sources do not support claims of a distinction from Ezhava or a Thiyya vs. Tiyyar distinction; cited sources are a hodgepodge of mentions, The main page Ezhava says both are synonymous , while the current page claims it as a distinct ethnicity. This need to be broadly discussed as the page is in an unstable form , at this stage redirecting is the best option as all the info is already provided in the main page Ezhava with raj era sources and all are detailed . Lisa121996 (talk) 08:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Once again , I have thoroughly checked the sources and found out that this violates almost all of the policies . these are duplicate contents as well as simply non sourced contents , All are properly sourced in the main page which considers both as synonymous . also this was been redirected since years . Lisa121996 (talk) 08:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe yes, there is difference between Ezhava and Tiyyar. Both are connected but some changes?

All sources used in this article comes from ezhava page, so there is source problem. Other editors already add the Original Research tag to this article. Piyush Chekavar (talk) 10:04, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The caste expert @Sitush actually said both ezhava and thiyya are the same, and he deleted any thiyya page. But he is no active now, so we made thiyya page. Is any problem? Piyush Chekavar (talk) 10:07, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]